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Jeremy Pinsly
09-30-2016, 08:43 PM
I just acquired an SC SBT with a Monte Carlo stock. However, there is no serial number under the trigger guard.
I was told the stock was original, but without the serial number under the guard, I am having significant doubts.
How unlikely would it be that the stock IS original but lacks the serial number under the trigger guard?
Bruce Day
09-30-2016, 10:38 PM
Slim to none
Dean Romig
10-01-2016, 06:36 AM
How about showing us a picture or two Jeremy.
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Jeremy Pinsly
10-01-2016, 07:46 AM
Please let me know if you think this is original.
BTW, it didn't match the letter config for the DOC and DOH.
Dean Romig
10-01-2016, 07:53 AM
The nose of the comb doesn't look like original Parker or Remington replacement.
It could be a DelGrego replacement.
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Brian Dudley
10-01-2016, 08:05 AM
^^ what Dean said ^^
Everything about it except the comb looks correct. And the comb looks totally delgrego.
I dont know what to say abot the dull screwdricer that inletted the trigger guard.
Does your white line pad have the delgrego name on it?
Jeremy Pinsly
10-01-2016, 08:07 AM
Then gun does have a DelGrego pad on the butt.
Brian Dudley
10-01-2016, 08:14 AM
If it looks like a duck then.
Chuck Bishop
10-01-2016, 08:32 AM
Jeremy, it's most likely a DelGrego buttstock but it's a great looking stock. Can you show us a pictures of the beavertail forend? We may be able to tell by the checkering and mullerd border if it's original. It's not uncommon to just have the buttstock replaced but keep the beavertail original. BTW, the same applies to the forend wood, it should have the S/N stamped in the wood but you have to separate the metal from the wood.
Brian Dudley
10-01-2016, 08:35 AM
Most single barrel traps have suffered the fate of a lot of other trap guns and that is being owned by trap shooters (likely multiple ones), who are notorious for stock modifications. Many guns have stocks that, if they are original, they have been altered so much that they are just a mess.
At least you have a stock that is one piece of nicely figured wood and looks, for ghe most part, correct.
Bill Murphy
10-01-2016, 10:04 AM
What tool was used to install the initial plate? Anyone hazard a guess? It is a nice looking trap gun.
Jeremy Pinsly
10-01-2016, 10:11 AM
Some more pics
Bottom gun in the pic
Jeremy Pinsly
10-01-2016, 10:13 AM
Some more
Bill Murphy
10-01-2016, 04:15 PM
That is a nice trio. Tell us about the top gun in the picture.
Jeff Christie
10-01-2016, 05:56 PM
Just shoot the gun (a lot) and enjoy it. Compared to the many bizarre unsingles, Star Wars, and other strange guns, a classic stands out on its own. You can easily adopt to the stock if it's not too out of norm. SBTs are just great fun. You probably can easily shoot more shells in an afternoon than you'll put through all your other Parkers in a year or two. There are at least three at our little country field and we all love ours.
Jay Gardner
10-01-2016, 10:53 PM
Question: I have a stock that is not original but the serial # is stamped in the wood under the trigger guard. Did DelGrego put serial #s in the wood when he restocked a gun?
Craig Budgeon
10-02-2016, 02:48 PM
Jeremy, I am in agreement with the other opinions that your SBT has been restocked, but very well done especially if the gun was done more than 30 years ago when repairs and refinishing were common terms and restorations were just beginning to be in vogue. The checkered side panels look large to me and the monte-carlo stock looks slightly different from other guns I have examined. However, the overall proportions and the finish are very good and to a non Parker expert/collector your gun would pass as original except for the recoil pad. Finally Jeremy, I have known gun vendors to make partial refunds on guns they have sold when they provided erroneous information before the sale and in your case I believe it was an honest mistake.
Jeremy Pinsly
10-02-2016, 04:13 PM
All,
Thanks for the comments and feedback. I returned the gun to the seller and explained that the stock was not original. They know I don't buy refinished or non-original guns, so that wasn't an issue.
However, I had some work done to the gun (replace the sights with ivory beads, adjust the ejector, adjust the top lever). I offered to pay for these items, but if I knew the stock was not original I would have never been interested in the gun. To be determined if I will bear these costs or if the seller will absorb or perhaps split the cost with me.
Brian Dudley
10-02-2016, 08:43 PM
I would be very surprised if the seller would accept a return of a gun that has been worked on/altered after the fact of sale. But... to each their own i suppose. That goes WAY beyond any sort of traditional return policy.
Jeremy Pinsly
10-03-2016, 06:40 AM
To clarify, the gun was bought from a dealer under the premise that the gun was all original. All the work was coordinated by the dealer before I took possession of the gun.
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