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Phillip Carr
08-24-2016, 12:49 AM
I built up my war chest for my up coming Bison hunt, and went to pick up a Winchester 71 rebarreled for a 50-110 that had come into a local shop.
To my surprise a Parker 10 gauge hammer gun had just came in. I swore no more shotguns, but this one was.too much to pass up. Hammer gun on a 5 frame, 36" Damascus barrels. Weighs 12 lbs. 14 oz.
Thanks to Chuck I was able to get information on the gun and I bought the gun today. It Needs some work but all original with modern Demensions. Bores are frosted but almost pit free. Letters to 3" chambers. It was targeted for 8'shot. Went to Bancroft NE in 1890. Now the fun part begins trying to piece together some history if I can.
It will be 19 days before I can pick up due to local gun sale requirement that guns sold to shops must be held by the dealer for 3 weeks in case a gun has been reported stolen. Cannt wait to pick it up.

Craig Larter
08-24-2016, 05:33 AM
Wow nice find. Top lever or lifter,what grade?

Rick Losey
08-24-2016, 07:05 AM
can't wait to see pictures

Mills Morrison
08-24-2016, 08:05 AM
That is a real find there. Congratulations!

Larry Stauch
08-24-2016, 09:43 AM
I'm guessing that is a pre-1898 gun and I'm wondering why you would ever have to wait for that particular gun. Whoever's telling you have to wait for a pre-1898 gun is telling you the wrong thing, unless it is not a pre-1898 gun.

Jim DiSpagno
08-24-2016, 09:48 AM
It is a local law to see if a gun is in any database as reported stolen and prevent potential legal ramifications down the road.

todd allen
08-24-2016, 11:33 AM
Phil, I know this is a Parker forum, but I would love to hear more on the Winchester 71.
Very interesting choice of caliber. Maybe you could post a couple pics.
BTW, kudos on the 10 ga hammer gun. Sounds like a very nice find!

Erick Dorr
08-24-2016, 11:37 AM
Pictures pictures pictures counting down the days.

Larry Stauch
08-24-2016, 12:12 PM
I see Jim. They have the same thing in the state of Washington, but they usually won't display a gun until it clears in the event there is an issue.
And yes, let's see some pictures when you get it!:shock:corn:

Mark Ouellette
08-24-2016, 02:21 PM
Gents,

Post all non-Parker gun discussions in the Other Fine Doubles or members Off Topics sections.

Richard Flanders
08-24-2016, 07:09 PM
I wanna see the .50-110 also. Fullers gunshop in Coopers Landing up here in Alaska used to convert mod 71's to a .50 Alaskan, essentially a .50cal guide gun before there was a guide gun just like my 16" Win'86 .45-90. They are pretty rare these days. I've never even seen one and have only ever read of one for sale.

Phillip Carr
08-24-2016, 08:36 PM
I have a couple of poor pictures of the Parker I will post shortly. The SN is 60065. It is a GH made in 1890. Just for clarification on the wait time of 21 days this is a local ordain
Nice that may apply only to gun shops that will also do pawn. Some shops do not put out guns I suppose until the 21 days are up. I am fortunate to bird hunt with the shop owner so I may get a chance to look at some guns before the general public sees them.

The info on the model 71 will have a new topic opened under off topics as suggested.

Phillip Carr
08-24-2016, 08:45 PM
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Phillip Carr
08-24-2016, 08:48 PM
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Rick Losey
08-24-2016, 08:48 PM
Ooh. A tease. :corn:

Keep 'em coming

Phillip Carr
08-24-2016, 08:50 PM
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Phillip Carr
08-24-2016, 08:52 PM
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Phillip Carr
08-24-2016, 08:55 PM
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Phillip Carr
08-24-2016, 09:14 PM
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Craig Larter
08-25-2016, 07:05 AM
Very cool gun,thanks for posting pictures!!!

Phillip Carr
08-25-2016, 08:45 AM
Craig you have a 6 frame 10 DH correct?

I almost sold my 3 frame GHE Hammerless 36" barrel 10 gauge kind of glad I still have it now.

Phillip Carr
08-25-2016, 09:02 AM
2 more pictures. Some case color left but not much

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Craig Larter
08-25-2016, 09:03 AM
Phil: I have a #6 frame D top lever hammer gun 36"bbls 15lbs, it's a bookend to your new purchase---I am envious congratulations on a great find!! Craig

Rick Losey
08-25-2016, 09:34 AM
Color isn't all that bad for its age IMHO

Is that striker/firing pin retention screw a little proud?

Phillip Carr
08-25-2016, 09:39 AM
15 lbs... What a gun. My 8 gauge Parker on a 7 frame only weighs 13 1/2 lbs.

Wayne Owens
08-25-2016, 12:33 PM
What a fantastic find. You are one lucky guy!

Chuck Bishop
08-25-2016, 02:51 PM
Phil,

I hope that picture of your research letter is not of the original I sent you in the mail. If so, I forgot to sign it and it got boogered up by UPS. Hopefully it's just a printout of the attached letter I sent you on an e-mail. I will send you another if necessary.

charlie cleveland
08-25-2016, 09:20 PM
you boys sure got a pair of heavy weights parkers...i can see a turkey hunt coming up soon for these guns...charlie

George Lander
08-26-2016, 12:48 AM
WOW! Fishtail top lever too.........George

Phillip Carr
08-26-2016, 05:02 AM
Chuck its a print out of the electronic version you sent to me. It looks pretty bad LOL. I have been carrying the copy around and keep looking at it since i have to wait two more weeks before I can carry the gun around. ��

Phillip Carr
08-27-2016, 07:54 AM
Im going down today to take a few pictures and measure the choke restriction. 16 more days and i can bring it home.

Rick Losey
08-27-2016, 08:35 AM
Im going down today to take a few pictures and measure the choke restriction. 16 more days and i can bring it home.

not anxious are we :rotf:

Phillip Carr
08-27-2016, 10:31 AM
Rick might be obsessing just a little bit LOL. Keep thinking I could be cleaning the bores, checking out screws, it does have a little cracking in the wrist area I want to look at closer, etc. I was so excited about finding it I didn't look at it as close as I might have on other guns.

Now to start researching the area in Nebraska it came out of and the names associated with this Parker as listed on the letter.

I plan to bring it to Vegas in January

Phillip Carr
08-29-2016, 05:32 PM
I read a chapter that included information on frame sizes in The Parker Story. In it it stated that only one hammer gun 10 gauge was ever produced. Could that possibly be correct? Would like additional thoughts on the gun being patterned with 8 shot and 3 inch chambers.
Might it been used on Prairie chickens? Pheasants were not well established. I think in 1890 passenger pigeons were already well on the way to extinction I believe. As stated Sandhills cranes are a possibility although I have leaned towards # 4 shot when I hunt them down here. What shot did market hunters lean towards for ducks?

I don't have access to ancestry.com does anyone have an account that they could look at and see if Weber or Hawley as lists on the research letter might have any data on them? Or if you have any thoughts on where I might find information it would be great.

Rick Losey
08-29-2016, 05:42 PM
I read a chapter that included information on frame sizes in The Parker Story. In it it stated that only one hammer gun 10 gauge was ever produced. Could that possibly be correct? Would like additional thoughts on the gun being patterned with 8 shot and 3 inch chambers.
Might it been used on Prairie chickens? Pheasants were not well established. I think in 1890 passenger pigeons were already well on the way to extinction I believe. As stated Sandhills cranes are a possibility although I have leaned towards # 4 shot when I hunt them down here. What shot did market hunters lean towards for ducks?

I don't have access to ancestry.com does anyone have an account that they could look at and see if Weber or Hawley as lists on the research letter might have any data on them? Or if you have any thoughts on where I might find information it would be great.



"In it it stated that only one hammer gun 10 gauge was ever produced. Could that possibly be correct?" i think something is missing in this statement - since i have more than one hammer ten

and try searching the link in here - its at least worth a try

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19661

Phillip Carr
08-29-2016, 05:57 PM
Oops !!! ��I meant to add on a 5 frame.

Chuck Bishop
08-29-2016, 06:43 PM
I would start at your city library looking at US and state census records and newspapers from the town these guys lived in. I know if you buy the Ancestry.Com package you get census info, at least you used to.

Phillip Carr
08-29-2016, 07:19 PM
Thank you Chuck I will probably get a subscription. I have several guns it might help me get information on.