Barrel Inquiry/Opinion

[Alfred Houde]

Do these barrels look cut? Any thoughts or input would be appreciated.

I know the blank space between the bead and muzzle is not a given. I was wondering thoughts on the keels and solder. Thanks in advance.

[charlie cleveland]

the barrels look cut to me looking at the soilder its not up to parker standards in my opinion but i could be wrong...charlie

[Rick Losey]

how about a serial number so we can see if its in the book ?

i'd guess cut

[Alfred Houde]

That's the dilemma. The number is not listed in the book or the site inquiry. I also checked the G&H site to see if maybe they once had it but no joy. Thought I would ask here as many have seen and examined far more than I have.

[Brian Dudley]

First... What grade is it?

[Alfred Houde]

VH grade, O frame. Seller states 26" barrels with M/F chokes. This also raised a flag with me. I'm waiting on the measurement of choke lengths.

[Brian Dudley]

Yeah, i would be suspect. The matting looking like that would not be abnormal for a Trojan. But on a VH, there should be a pretty definiati e termination along with a hand engraved line.
Combined with the non-original bead and the length, they may be cut.

[Dean Romig]

It looks nicely trimmed only. The keels are in place and the rib matting terminates short of the end of the rib with the addition of applied matting to the very end of the rib.
Double click on the picture and look closely and you will see that where the line across the rib at the end of the matting would normally be the matting does not precisely join with the applied matting to the end of the rib. We have seen similar applications of engraved matting and other peculiarities which indicate uncut barrels.






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[Dean Romig]

Combined with the non-original bead and the length, they may be cut.


Brian, what to you indicates a non-original bead? Parkers were often ordered with ivory beads or sent back at a later date to have them installed.





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[Brian Dudley]

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[Dave Suponski]

I would say uncut but I would measure the length of the choke. Mod/Full chokes in a 26" gun is not unheard of. Remember paper shells and fiber wadding.

[Daryl Corona]

Uncut. I agree with Dean and Dave. FWIW, I have a 20 VHE, 26", that's M/F.

[Hal Sheets]

Maybe it's the angle of the photo, or more likely my old eyes, but to me that right barrel looks a LOT more open than the left one. Like they could be bored cylinder & full. I'd like to know what measuring the chokes turns up.
Dean makes a good point about the termination of the matting. The termination just doesn't flow; looks as if it was added.
That bead (I love the color) looks a bit large.
So, the last 2 inches of the barrels make me think somebody had this gun setup just the way THEY wanted. From the factory or later?

[Craig Budgeon]

Hum, I look at the muzzle photos and I see bright shiny steel where I would expect to see some patina where no original finish exist. Skeptical, you bet. Does the rest of the metal surfaces display any areas of patina. Compare the rest of the gun.

[Dean Romig]

The shinyness at the muzzles indicates to me that they were simply filed to get rid of rough edges etc. from decades of use and the darkness of patina there in order to tidy up the gun and may possibly have been done by the OP to get a better idea if there are keels in place.






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[Erick Dorr]

My vote would be that the muzzles were only cleaned up not cut.
Erick

[John Allen]

The chokes will tell the story.If they are long and the gun is not backbored it has not been cut.If they are very open I would say the barrels have been cut.However,I have never seen cut barrels that touched at the muzzle.Even a small trim would leave a gap.

[wayne goerres]

If you have the gun in hand take a tape measurer and actually measure the barrels. If there a little short or a little long that might be a good indication as to weather they have been cut.