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David Penland
08-23-2016, 12:28 PM
How many 16 gauge guns were made on the 0 frames?

Dean Romig
08-23-2016, 03:03 PM
Many thousands I would think.

The books generally do not indicate the frame size. If a 16 gauge gun was ordered to be "light" or under a specified weight we can presume it was built on the 0-frame but that's about all we have to go by.






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Brian Dudley
08-23-2016, 03:21 PM
I personally think that many more 0 frame 16g. guns were made than many would think.

Rich Anderson
08-23-2016, 04:51 PM
Just because it's an O frame doesn't mean it"s a light gun. Wood density, ejectors, BTF, VR all add weight. I have a couple of O frame 16's that are actually heavier than some of the #1 frame guns.

Dean Romig
08-23-2016, 05:19 PM
Not to mention barrel length. Most 0-frame sixteens have 26" barrels while most 1-frame sixteens have barrels of 28" and longer.






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Rich Anderson
08-23-2016, 05:30 PM
I have two 16's (ok there are more:whistle:) both with 28 inch barrels and the O frame gun is heavier than the #1 frame gun. Barrel length would add additional weight as well so it's unfair to label all O frames as light weights.

Daniel_Noll
08-23-2016, 06:07 PM
Well my new to me 16ga on a 0 frame is waiting for me after this travel trip. Will have to compare it to my 16ga 1 frame that was my Grandfather's that my Dad gave the me when I retired from the Navy. Thank you Dad! He totally shocked the hell out of me.

Alfred Greeson
08-23-2016, 09:49 PM
Interesting, three 16 gauge Parker, all 28 inch barrels are:
VHE #1 frame barrels 3 lb 5 oz, gun weighs 6 lb 12 oz,
VH #1 frame barrels 3 lb 8 oz, gun weighs 6 lb 13 oz, slim stock like an O frame.
VHE #0 frame barrels 3 lb 3 oz, gun weighs 6 lb 9 oz,
VH #1 frame barrels 3 lb 11 oz, gun weighs 7 lb. 1 oz, 12 ga. 28 in. barrels.
GHE 1 1/2 frame barrels 3 lb 9 oz, gun weight 7 lbs. even. 12 ga. 28 in. barrels.
I like all these but I shoot the O frame better than any of the others. Interesting how each is different, how the overall weight changes but each still has the feel of a custom built gun. All have a 14 1/8 to 14 3/8 lop.

legh higgins
08-23-2016, 10:11 PM
Just because it's an O frame doesn't mean it"s a light gun. Wood density, ejectors, BTF, VR all add weight. I have a couple of O frame 16's that are actually heavier than some of the #1 frame guns.
My 0 frame 16 28 inch vh 5#15:rotf:oz...is that light?

Alfred Greeson
08-23-2016, 10:15 PM
I'm a rookie at these but that sounds really light to me.

Dean Romig
08-23-2016, 10:39 PM
Sounds about right to me Legh - is that the one in my gun safe? If so, I can go weigh it right now....

I've got to get that little sweetie back to you before the pa'tridge opener.






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Jim Beilke
08-24-2016, 08:26 PM
My 16 0 frame, St stock,26"barrels weighs 5# 14oz

Harold Lee Pickens
08-25-2016, 12:06 PM
My DHE 16 O frame, 26", was ordered at and weighs exactly 6 pounds. My 20 ga VH w/26' also comes in at exactly 6 lbs

keavin nelson
08-28-2016, 08:46 AM
No wonder the 16s are getting scarce, you guys are hoarding them!!!!:rotf: