Parker/Lefever

[Bruce Day]

There was discussion about comparison of Parker and Lefever engraving.

Here are two guns generally equivalent in grade and engraving and made about the same year. One is a Lefever E with chain Damascus , the other a C Parker with Bernard.

Pointer side :

[Bruce Day]

Pointer side

[Bruce Day]

Setter side

[Bruce Day]

Other setter side

[Dean Romig]

Very, very close in coverage and execution of engraving.
I do, however, prefer Joe Loy's dogs' heads and faces over those on the Parker.

Thanks for those comparisons Bruce.






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[Dave Noreen]

Just to pick a nit -- A Parker Bros. CH was a $150 gun, while the Lefever E-Grade was their $100 price point gun, more a match to a DH Parker. The C-Grade was the Lefever $150 gun.

Still, both guns shown are great guns and fine examples of their dog styles.

[Nick de Guerre]

Very, very close in coverage and execution of engraving.
I do, however, prefer Joe Loy's dogs' heads and faces over those on the Parker.



I see no Loy signature on that Lefever.

- NDG

[Bruce Day]

Oops I didn't mean to thumbs up. I neither agree or disagree. It's said by those who know more than me that it is likely Joseph Loy.

[Nick de Guerre]

Oops I didn't mean to thumbs up. I neither agree or disagree. It's said by those who know more than me that it is likely Joseph Loy.

Truth be told, Bruce, I wouldn't claim an experts eye either. I just have seen enough Lefevers which had the typical Loy "brackets, " that I wonder why he would ever engrave others without them.

- NDG

[Dean Romig]

I see no Loy signature on that Lefever.

- NDG

Nor do I, but it is my firm belief that those are his dogs. It is a known fact that most engravers, even the best like Loy, didn't sign all their work, especially on the lower grade Guns.





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[Bruce Day]

Dave, these were the closest I have. While good Parkers are hard to find, they are out there for the patient. Far fewer Lefevers were made and are difficult to find in mid to high grades. The most interesting in my opinion are the ones with all the compensating features and those are very hard to find. I am fortunate to have found ( through a friend) and acquired the two E's. The Lefevers with the cloverleaf sculpting on the breech balls and the wings on the barrel chambers are outstanding.

[Brian Dudley]

You wanna talk about a lefevers and parkers, how about that Parker side cocker conversion going up on auction at morphys. An ad with a photo of it is in the current issue of PP. however it is from the "bad" side of yhe gun which doesnt show the cocking lever.

[charlie cleveland]

mighty nice guns shown here...charlie

[Harold Lee Pickens]

I gotta go with the Lefever. I own 3, no high grade ones, a G 16 Damascus and 2 20 ga Dursten specials