Letter ordered for 139284

[Bill Graham]

Hello All. I've order my research letter for my Parker project and I'm looking forward to its arrival. If it's OK to ask, would anyone have any info from the serialization book that they would share for 139284?

Thank you.

[Rick Losey]

lists as a VH 12 with 30" barrels and a capped pistol grip stock

[Bill Graham]

lists as a VH 12 with 30" barrels and a capped pistol grip stock
Thank you. I was wondering how much of the barrel was removed. They left me with 28 1/8" and no chokes, but it's still a Parker.

[Dean Romig]

Unless the chokes were honed out you should at least have about 'skeet' chokes remaining. Original Parker Bros. chokes were as much as 4 1/2 inches or more in length.





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[Bill Graham]

Unless the chokes were honed out you should at least have about 'skeet' chokes remaining. Original Parker Bros. chokes were as much as 4 1/2 inches or more in length.
Cyl/Cyl is what I've got as measurements with a cheap choke gauge. More evidence that I really need that barrel I'm searching for.

[Dean Romig]

You should use a proper dial indicator to measure the amount in thousandths of constriction from the actual bore diameter to the measurement at the muzzle.





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[Bill Graham]

I understand.

It's clearly cylinder on both sides, and this gun is so challenged that's close enough. It is what it is. The bigger concern are the bore pits, having the bore wall thickness measured well, and determing what the course of action is then. I understand some of the options, and the costs, so I'm working select a wise and acceptible solution. I hope that the solution doesn't have to be hanging it on a wall until I find a barrel, but that may be the case.

It's a shame it was so neglected and got to this state.

[greg conomos]

Don't let the lack of chokes bother you. The cylinder bore shotgun is the shotgun in its purest form.

[Bill Graham]

Not too bothered. 80% of the clays course my family joined is well within reach with cylinder bore. We have a 20ga Sterlingworth ejector for my wife that someone did the same to as well. It's 25 3/4".

I typically am able to reside in the fixed-upper market, so I get what I can afford and what I can afford usually has been altered or neglected somehow.

The pitting is the main concern.

[Brian Dudley]

A drop in guage does NOT accurately indicate choke on most parkers. Especially ones made before 1920 or so.

As dean said. A proper bore gauge or at least something that you can measure the ID of the last 6" of the bore with needs to be used.

Choke is the amount of constriction in a bore, not the diameter of the muzzle.

Most parkers were over bored. I have seen original 12g guns in the .750" plus range. And guess what, they still had full chokes. That would mean a very inaccurate reading on a drop in gauge which assumes a bire diameter of .729".

[Bill Graham]

OK. I'll try to get it measured in a competent way. Regardless, it's been liberated of almost 2" of whatever it had when it left the factory and I'd assume that act left little remaining choke. I get now that a drop in is not the best source of truth, but they are not without value in what they tell you are they?

[Brian Dudley]

It os all dependant on actual bore size. If the bore is .729" or even close, a drop in gauge will be accurate. But if it is much oversized, it is not.

If your drop in is measuring Cyl on both sides, then the bore is likely oversized.

If only 2" was taken off, you should be getting a light mod measuremrnt. Assuming full chokes on the original 30" length.

Another thing... The letter may not mention choking. Likely just patterning info.

[tom tutwiler]

I think they are off the market now, but the best tool investment I ever made was for a Skeets set with two heads that could cover from 28 gauge through 12 gauge. I purchased a cut barreled L.C. Smith Specialty grade in 16 gauge and thought I had won the lottery. Sent it to Dewey Vicknair for inspection and he told me it had cut barrels and no choke left. I purchased the Skeets from Brownells the following day. Its saved me a ton of money since. One has no idea what's been done to a bore until one measures the bore diameter. It can truly be an eye opener.