Winchester super speed hull 20ga

[William R Johnson]

Good morning.
Does anyone know what data to use for this hull. The only Win hulls I'm use to is AA. It has a goldish insert in the bottom. They are about 15 years old.

Thanks
Bill

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[Bill Murphy]

Data may be the same as the AA hull, but you may have a rough time with the six point crimp. I would be throwing them away and using the AA hulls.

[James L. Martin]

They look like Winchester Polyformed case with plastic basewad. They are not AA hulls and do not use the same reloading data. Also they are 6 pt crimp as already noted in last post. You can find reloading data in some older Winchester books or GOOGLE it.

[Jeff Christie]

Trash them and stay with the great gold standard WWAA.

[William R Johnson]

Thanks for the helps gentlemen. I believe James is correct. Polyform. There is a 7500psi 7/8 load with rxp and universal that will be just right. Load once and discard. I hate throwing away hulls. That's what happens when you are raised poor. :)

[Paul Harm]

There really should be nothing wrong with 6 point hulls. I reload just 12ga, but I've ground out the ribs with a Dremal tool in the plastic start crimp so 6 or 8 point hulls can be used without changing dies.

[Mark Garrett]

Hodgdons' web site has data for those hulls . Why would the six point crimp be a problem ?? Unless you don't have the correct crimp starter.