3" 20 Gauge Question

[Edwin Obrecht]

We're the 20ga offered with 3" chambers? Thanks...

[Dean Romig]

By special order only. "Three-inch" chambers were not a 'standard' chambering but Parker Bros. is known to have made a number of twenty-gauge guns chambered for the three-inch shell. These chambers generally measure 2 7/8" - the practice of chambering a set of barrels 1/8" shorter than the shell they were designed to shoot carried into their "three-inch" guns as well.






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[Edwin Obrecht]

Sorry if I was not clear. Question is about 3" 20ga. Reproductions. Were they produced?
Thanks.

[Dean Romig]

My mistake for not paying closer attention to the sub-forum you posted under... sorry.

Yes, I had one and both the 26" barrels and the 28" barrels were for 3" shells.





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[Greg Baehman]

Yes, I had one and both the 26" barrels and the 28" barrels were for 3" shells.

Dean, are you sure about that? Most 20-ga. 26" guns have 2 3/4" chambers and the 28" guns have 3" chambers.

[Dean Romig]

Frankly Greg, no, I'm not sure about that, I'd have to ask the current owner of the gun.

Maybe he'll pop on here with the answer.





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[Rex Northen]

I'm still learning - had previously thought that all the 20 gauge reproductions were 3" chambers...

[Donovan Kirkpatrick]

I have two 20 ga guns, both 26" bbls are 2 3/4". I believe the 2 bbl 20 gauge guns had the 28" bbl chamber3" shells.

[Bill Murphy]

Yup, all 28" 20 gauges seem to be bored and marked 3". A 26" 20 gauge with 3" chambers would be a special order gun. All the Repro catalogs can be access in our "album" section.

[Greg Baehman]

We all know there have been misprints and mistakes made in some of the Parker Reproduction brochures. Did you happen to notice the 28" 28-ga. chamber length in the brochure above?

[George M. Purtill]

We all know there have been misprints and mistakes made in some of the Parker Reproduction brochures. Did you happen to notice the 28" 28-ga. chamber length in the brochure above?

Wow- 3 inch 28 gauge!!! Just like the old/original 28 gauge shells I have seen.

[Bill Murphy]

But find a gun that's marked that way and we will have something to discuss.

[Scot Cardillo]

Although the 28” barrels are chambered for 3” shells..it is a bit frustrating that steel is a no-no through the tight chokes that the 28” barrels generally posses considering that is one of the primary occasions for 3" shells :vconfused:

28” - 20ga factory chokes other than M/F appear to be very rare - don't think I've ever happened upon anything other in fact..

[Dean Romig]

With the chrome-moly barrel steel coupled with the chrome lined barrels of the Repros, I wonder if that would hold true on these barrels?






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[Scot Cardillo]

With the chrome-moly barrel steel coupled with the chrome lined barrels of the Repros, I wonder if that would hold true on these barrels?



I'd be concerned about bridging and the likely result of a bulge / ring

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Oops..my mistake having not caught what you said in full Dean..Chrome-Moly..has it been confirmed that the barrels are made out of a particular material..4130/4140 as opposed to low carbon steel?

Would that make a difference with respect to bridging and the concern of barrel distortion?

..of course the gripe about the use of steel shot etc. is a 2016 complaint and we certainly cannot whine to much about the lack of forward thinking in the 80's, but it's still annoying :cuss:

[John R. Richards]

Just checked my 20 gauge 2 barrel set. The 26" barrel is 2 3/4" and the 28" barrel is 3". Serial number is DHE 00565.

John

[Dave Noreen]

Just like the old/original 28 gauge shells I have seen.

Those were 2 7/8 inch --

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Western%20Cartridge%20Co/28-gauge%20Super-X%206_zpsgpgb6gwb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Peters%20Cartridge%20Co/28-gauge%20High%20Velocity%206_zpsorrhsphb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Rem-UMC/28-gauge%20Nitro%20Express%207%201-2_zpszf197fom.jpg

From the introduction of the 28-gauge in North America to WW-II the "standard" 28-gauge paper shell was 2 1/2 inch with a load of 1 3/4 drams of bulk powder pushing 5/8 ounce of shot. The only longer length 28-gauge paper hull offered was 2 7/8 inch. From time to time the companies offered the 2 7/8 inch hull loaded with 2 drams of powder pushing that same 5/8 ounce of shot. In 1932 the progressive burning smokeless powder high velocity 28-gauge loads with 3/4 ounce of shot came out and all the manufacturers put that load up in the 2 7/8 inch shell.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Ithaca%20and%20Lefever/NID28-gaFieldStreamApril1932.jpg
April 1932 Field & Stream

The 2 3/4 inch 28-gauge shell we know began appearing just before WW-II in skeet loads and after the War became the standard for all 28-gauge loads.

Maybe Parker Repro was just ahead of their time --

http://28gasociety.forumer.com/topic/2354771/The-new-3-28ga-shell-Why-its-helpful-and-useful-for-some#.V4cn37grLIU

https://pipesf16.wordpress.com/the-new-3-28ga-hull-why-its-helpful/

[Tom Jay]

[QUOTE=Scot Cardillo;195103] 28” - 20ga factory chokes other than M/F appear to be very rare - don't think I've ever happened upon anything other in fact..


My 20 gauge Repro's 28" barrels came from the factory with IC/Full chokes. Second set are 26" Q1/Q2.

[Kenny Graft]

I know of a few 20-gauge 28" that are factory choked Q1/Q2 I own a 20/16 set that both are 28" Q1/Q2.....(-: They are scarce indeed. SXS Ohio

[George M. Purtill]

And if anyone would have those rare repro specs, it would be Kenny.

[charlie cleveland]

the little 28 ga has gone thru its verious length of shells like all the other gauges for sure.. someday i m gona get me a 28 of some kind....charlie