Another Lifter Please...

[Jay Oliver]

I couldn’t help myself on this one. This is an 1880 12 Gauge - Grade 2 Lifter, # 2 Frame with 32” Damascus barrels. All but 1 of the brass shells are Parker Bros. 12 A and the powder dipper is a Parker Bros. as well.

A little more drop in the stock than I would prefer at 3 1/8”, but a nice length of pull at 14 ¼”.

It came in today and I shot it this afternoon. Very nice, I am not used to it yet, but I like it! It has Cyl/Imp. Cyl chokes(at the muzzle), though it seemed to shoot tighter than that.

Anyway I thought I would share.

Thanks,
Jay

[Jay Oliver]

A few more pictures:

[Mills Morrison]

Really cool.

[David Dwyer]

Jay
I just love the lifters! I think that are the finest gun Parker made and that looks like a nice one
David

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Nice find Jay! Lifters are like David said, hard to beat, Gary

[Rich Anderson]

I have the twin to that one but with 30 inch barrels. Nice gun congrats.

[Dennis E. Jones]

Lovely, absolutely lovely.

I do wish Parkers were more plentiful in my area. I really don't need any more of them as I hardly shoot the Parkers and other old doubles I own but, on the other hand they sure do look and feel good in your hands.

Congratulations on finding a great one.

[Dave Noreen]

Nice find!! Congrats!!

A Parker Bros. 12-gauge of that era could well have bores over .750" so if one just measured choke with a plug at the muzzle it would show far less choke then is really the case. The early shot shell loading companies knew this and loaded cartridges for Parker Bros. guns accordingly --

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[Bill Murphy]

Yup, a full measurement of your bores and chokes will result in a way different choke designation than you originally thought. One of our members could measure your bores, a much better choice than a "gunsmith". Unfortunately, normal choke micrometers will not measure 12 gauge chambers, nor will they measure Parker bores and chokes on early guns.

[bruce a lyons]

Congrats. I had additional pictures of her and a deal struck. You hit the BUY NOW. Again, congrats on your purchase. Glad a fellow PGCA member will enjoy it.

[Jay Oliver]

Bruce, I didn't put too much thought into it. I bought that gun quickly after a conversation and a few more pictures. The accessories made the deal a little easier. I think when she said someone else is very interested, I just went for it(though I didn’t know who that might be). I did get the research letter and Dave and Bill are right the gun is choked pretty tight even though it measured IC or Cyl at the muzzle.

The letter said 190 pellets in a 24" circle at 45 yards. Isn't that tight?

[bruce a lyons]

Well done. Congrats again. As luck would have it an old buddy showed up today with an old shotgun belonging to his father in law. Wanted it cleaned up for a wall hanger. Gun is a train wreck of sorts but says L.C. Smith and Crown Steel on it. Working on a purchase, will post results. Only been here a few minutes, not a Crown Grade, but nicer than average. Off to L.C. Smith website.

[Mike Franzen]

Great gun you have there Jay. The lifter action was the best made IMHO

[Harry Collins]

I have a 12 gauge lifter with .752 bores with .013 constriction in both barrels. My 10 gauge lifter has .802 bores and .030 in both barrels.