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tom tutwiler
03-21-2016, 06:58 PM
Posted this elsewhere but maybe someone here might have such a thing. Looking for a nice picture of a ejector forearm for a Fox small bore with the snap on forearm. Either an A or B grade model. Only the first few hundred small graded guns had the snap on forearm and most of those weren't ejector models, but one can dream someone might have one stuck in a safe somewhere. PM or post would be fine. PS. I've come across C, D and X, but nothing in a grade A or B, which is what I'm looking for. Thanks mucho.

Brian Dudley
03-21-2016, 07:21 PM
Tom,
Contact Wayne Goerres here on the forum. Or he may see this and chime in. I am pretty sure he has an AE grade 20g with a snap on forend.

wayne goerres
03-21-2016, 07:30 PM
And Brian would be correct. Give me a little time and I will take a picture for you.

wayne goerres
03-21-2016, 07:44 PM
Here is the pic's you requested.

tom tutwiler
03-21-2016, 08:18 PM
And Brian would be correct. Give me a little time and I will take a picture for you.


Would be super indeed. Thanks much. Regards, Tom

Dave Noreen
03-22-2016, 02:25 PM
The snap-on/-off forearms either the Fox & Kremer or the F.T. Russell Patents seem to have remained in use through at least the first 600 20-gauges and at least the first 500 16-gauges, well into the Gough style engraving on the A-/AE- and B-/BE-Grades. I have recorded a couple of very early 20-gauges with Deeley lever forearms. I too have pictures of CE-, XE- and DE-grade escutcheons in smallbore forearms, but don't have an AE- or BE-Grade either early or Gough style.

tom tutwiler
03-22-2016, 03:07 PM
The snap-on/-off forearms either the Fox & Kremer or the F.T. Russell Patents seem to have remained in use through at least the first 600 20-gauges and at least the first 500 16-gauges, well into the Gough style engraving on the A-/AE- and B-/BE-Grades. I have recorded a couple of very early 20-gauges with Deeley lever forearms. I too have pictures of CE-, XE- and DE-grade escutcheons in smallbore forearms, but don't have an AE- or BE-Grade either early or Gough style.

I went to an auction two years ago in the Northern Neck of Va and saw an early AE with two sets of barrels (20 gauge) that had the A grade Escutcheon. Unfortunately the gun was trashed and I didn't bid on it nor did I take a picture of the forearm.

Greg Baehman
03-22-2016, 05:04 PM
In Tom Kidd's article in the DGJ Vol. 1 Issue 2 pgs. 83 & 84 pics of the thirtienth 20-ga. BE produced are shown. It has a snap-on forend, but the escutcheon engraving is hard to make out.

wayne goerres
03-22-2016, 07:10 PM
I to have two sets of barrels but Brian and I added the second set. It is an extractor set and a slight modification to the second forearm had to be made. The extractor barrels work perfectly.

tom tutwiler
03-23-2016, 10:07 AM
In Tom Kidd's article in the DGJ Vol. 1 Issue 2 pgs. 83 & 84 pics of the thirtienth 20-ga. BE produced are shown. It has a snap-on forend, but the escutcheon engraving is hard to make out.

I've got quite a few DGJ in the inventory. Not sure about that one. I'll check this evening.

Paweł Janusz
03-23-2016, 09:34 PM
Need to make missing part?

tom tutwiler
03-24-2016, 05:47 AM
Need to make missing part?

No, I'm having a Sterlingworth Ejector gun upgraded to an Early BE grade (second generation engraving). Trying to get a good digital picture of the engraved escutcheon.

Greg Baehman
03-24-2016, 09:06 AM
Does what you're looking for Tom, even exist? I would think that any smallbore BE with a snap-on forend would have the early first-generation style engraving.

tom tutwiler
03-24-2016, 09:19 AM
Does what you're looking for Tom, even exist? I would think that any smallbore BE with a snap-on forend would have the early first-generation style engraving.

I think it does. I've seen snap on Forearms with Second Generation B engraving, but they weren't ejector models. Needle in a haystock but I think they do exist.

Here's a picture of a Snap on B grade small bore, but its an non ejector model:


http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj304/romac2/A%20Fox%2016%20Quinbys/065_zpsybruv35w.jpg

Greg Baehman
03-24-2016, 09:25 AM
Well I'll be a son-of-a-gun, that's a first for me. Thanks for showing.

wayne goerres
03-24-2016, 08:49 PM
The photo of the forearm I posted is off of a all nos matching 1915 AE grade 20ga. I beleave the engraving on the gun is considered the later style.

tom tutwiler
03-25-2016, 04:10 AM
The photo of the forearm I posted is off of a all nos matching 1915 AE grade 20ga. I beleave the engraving on the gun is considered the later style.

That A grade escutcheon appears to be almost identical to a Sterlingworth ejector escutcheon. Maybe that was the norm for the A grades. Appears I'll just have to have Gournet figure out what works best and leave it up to him. This isn't his first rodeo for sure.

Brian Dudley
03-25-2016, 06:48 AM
He is good at that.