Guns wont shoot to point of aim.

[wayne goerres]

This may be a silly question and may have been covered before but it seems like all of my shotguns shoot high and to the right. Is there something I can do that dosn't include altering the guns.

[Brian Dudley]

Are they all the same stock dimensions?
Your findings would suggest that you ideally need adjustment to your stock drop and cast.

[Rick Losey]

aim low to the left

a proper fitting is the right fix, but a gun that shoots high needs the comb lowered. right/left is a cast adjustment

http://www.fieldsportltd.com/dr_shotgun/dr_shotgun.php

George Bird Evans had a simple 16 yard test to figure adjustment- i will get the book out tomorrow

[wayne goerres]

Have not tried all of them on paper but it seems to be a continuous pattern to them. An no they don't all have the same stock dimensions. Never used to have this problem before. I hate having to compensate.

[Brian Dudley]

Before you can make any determination at all, you need to proper patterning.

The process is to shoot at a patterning board with a central target from 16 yards. 6 quick successive shots are suggested that way you can guage consistency of patterning over the multiple shots.

Then you must determine where the center of the shot concentration is. Note the vertical and horizontal variance of this point from the point you were aiming at.

[John Dallas]

Are you shooting right or left handed? If you're a lefty, it could be that your master eye has changed to right-sided. For height, are you sure that you are getting your face firmly on the stock? (wood to wood)

[wayne goerres]

No I am right handed and still right eye dominant. I have tried several different guns lately and every one shoots high and to the right. I wonder if a flinch would cause this. Brian I will try your suggestion after Turkey season is over. Until then I just have to compensate.

[Chuck Bishop]

I would first pattern the gun off a bench with the gun in a good solid grip. Use the same sight picture you normally see over the rib and shoot. Make sure when you pull the trigger, you are not jerking the gun as you pull the trigger. It's important to have the same sight picture off the bench as you see when you are shooting upright. Take your measurements of the pattern from the bench. Now shoot offhand just like you would in the field. Compare the results. I wouldn't be too concerned if the left/right from center is slightly off due to the barrel convergence. If both vertical measurements between bench and offhand are the same and they are too low, your only option is to raise the comb. When you get the comb raised, you will see more rib which will make the gun shoot higher.

[John Dallas]

Is this a new problem? If yes, what has changed?

[Phil Yearout]

If they all do the same thing maybe it's the aim, not the gun?

[Craig Larter]

It sounds like you are lifting your head and don't realize it?

[Dean Romig]

When was the last time your vision was tested?
I have an astigmatism in the lens of my right (dominant) eye.
You may have developed one recently. It may not cause blurred vision but can be the cause of the apple being way off of the picnic table. I have corrective lenses for this problem.





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[wayne goerres]

My vision was last tested about six years ago. I had my cheek buried in the stocks of the guns I was trying to pattern. If you divide the targets into four squares all of my patterns from three different guns centered in the upper right square. Never had this problem before. Maybe Dean is correct.

[Paweł Janusz]

stand in front of mirror, close your eyes, mount the gun, open your eyes, where is your eye in reference to rib & bead?

[John Cinkoske]

Here's a long shot... :rotf:
Have you had any change in your weight?
That could make a difference.

[wayne goerres]

I am talking about shooting at a patterning board not clays, doves or ducks. So unless I am missing something here what dose pointing a shot gun at a mirror got to do with it.

[Rick Losey]

I am talking about shooting at a patterning board not clays, doves or ducks. So unless I am missing something here what dose pointing a shot gun at a mirror got to do with it.

I expect he is asking if your eye is centered down the rib, cast on or off and thickness at the comb can affect alignment

[Dean Romig]

Don't waste time on something that requires all sorts of experimentation. You say this is a recent phenomenon and it happens with all the guns you have tested on the pattern board... First thing to discover is what has recently changed... Certainly the guns haven't changed... Get your vision tested.






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[Russ Jackson]

I once had a gun which shot as you mention after missing enough Grouse with it , I had a Friend come along and we shot the gun on paper and Lo and Behold it did it for him too ! Maybe you could take a shooting partner to the paper and get his results also , this could at least eliminate part of the problem and give you an idea if it is in fact the gun or the shooter ! Just a Thought !

[wayne goerres]

Hello Russ. Yea I thought about that but the problem is that I took three guns to the range and it did the same thing to a certain degree. All the stocks are different from each other (witch happens when you are an impulse buyer). I am starting to think I need to glue a rear sight to each gun.