8-gauge Lefever

[Dave Noreen]

My local gun emporium has a Lefever Arms Co., F-Grade, 8-gauge, serial number 12784 with 28-inch Damascus barrels and a grip safety a bit different then the grip safety shown on page 147 of Robert Elliot's book.

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The muzzles look nicely crowned and finished under their decades of patina. Don't appear cut at all. While no one around here has an 8-gauge bore micrometer, I used the 10-gauge spade on mine. While it rattled around in the bore, at about two inches back from the muzzles it began to get purchase, so I'd estimate the chokes are 3 1/2 to 4 inches long.

Thoughts? Comments?

[Rick Losey]

thoughts and comments?????

wow and WOW

not sure how much detail you can get from the Lefever collector's group

what are the bores like and for curiosity what do they ask for a grouse gun like that?

[Craig Larter]

BUY IT!!!!!!

[Bill Murphy]

Dave, I sent you a PM. if an email would be better, wilmrph@verizon.net

[Richard Flanders]

A 28" 8 gauge?? What a great find.

[Dean Romig]

If you'd like to own one yourself, go to the upcoming Julia's auction and bid on the LeFever C-Grade in 8 gauge.






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[Dave Noreen]

If you's like to own one yourself, go to the upcoming Julia's auction and bid on the LeFever C-Grade in 8 gauge.......

That C-Grade has some serious forearm issues!! :crying:

[charlie cleveland]

wish i had found this gun...not many lefever 8 ga built....buy the gun if it is with in your reach....charlie

[Dave Noreen]

I have no interest in owning the gun. I put up these pictures and info up, looking for more info on 8-gauge Lefevers. Not much info on 8-gauges in Elliot's book. What is the speculation on how many made, etc. The only Lefever catalogue repro I have is probably from 20 years after this gun was made. In that catalogue the 8-gauge isn't mentioned under any grade, but on page 24 they show 8-gauges as coming with 30- to 34-inch barrels, and states they can provide 8 gauges in E and higher grades for a $10 advance in price.

[Fred Verry]

Dave, what does the barrel wall thickness profile look like for the last 6" toward the muzzle? This should give some idea of existing choke.

That gun should have a grip safety on the fore end too, just to insure that the shooter has a really good grip on both ends before touching off that sky sweeper.

[CraigThompson]

I like this !

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/2432-391/


Who is "Paul Tuder Jones II" ?

[Will Gurton]

Who is "Paul Tuder Jones II" ?


Investment Broker, I believe originally from Memphis.

Somehow related to Lord Templeton of Templeton Funds if my memory serves me correctly.

Then again it has failed me before. Lol

But this will get you in the Ballpark, I promise.

Will

[Dave Noreen]

I like this !

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/2432-391/



With a forearm that doesn't come within 1/8 inch of the frame knuckle, and the frame of the Deeley lever latch cracked through the middle!!

Forearm is slightly loose and in need of a minor adjustment,

Understatement of the year!!

[Pete Lester]

My local gun emporium has a Lefever Arms Co., F-Grade, 8-gauge, serial number 12784 with 28-inch Damascus barrels and a grip safety a bit different then the grip safety shown on page 147 of Robert Elliot's book.

The muzzles look nicely crowned and finished under their decades of patina. Don't appear cut at all. While no one around here has an 8-gauge bore micrometer, I used the 10-gauge spade on mine. While it rattled around in the bore, at about two inches back from the muzzles it began to get purchase, so I'd estimate the chokes are 3 1/2 to 4 inches long.

Thoughts? Comments?

Nice gun. I am curious, given the short barrels, what does it weigh, is it a light 8 (if there is such a thing)?

[Brian Dudley]

With a forearm that doesn't come within 1/8 inch of the frame knuckle, and the frame of the Deeley lever latch cracked through the middle!!



Understatement of the year!!



Just details... No big deal.

[CraigThompson]

Investment Broker, I believe originally from Memphis.

Somehow related to Lord Templeton of Templeton Funds if my memory serves me correctly.

Then again it has failed me before. Lol

But this will get you in the Ballpark, I promise.

Will


The history of this fellow !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Tudor_Jones

If you read into it far enough you see he hosted a fundraiser for the chump in the white house . That is a huge strike against the guy in my opinion !

[Craig Larter]

He is also selling a bunch of his sporting art at the guyette and deeter auction. I believe some of the great decoys in that auction are coming from another wall Street trader's collection Jim Cook.

[Bill Zachow]

Just for info, Parker was the main producer of 8 gauges of the quality american double gun makers. Their 400 plus certainly outranks LC Smith's approximate 30 and Lefevers, fewer than that. In 50 years of gun collecting I have seen only one Lefever 8. It was a beat, cut barreled gun. For additional info, in my second to last job of my career, the toolroom at the manufacturing plant was run by two Lefevers. Both great grandsons of the original. Excellent machinists but neither owned any guns but did have one early catalog that I copied.

[Bill Murphy]

There are a few light eights out there. A friend sold a #5 frame gun that was very light, but I don't know the exact weight. One DH 30" eight in my collection weighs exactly ten pounds, a real lighty. It is the only 30" hammerless eight in the stock books. It was ordered by T.H. Keller, a waterfowler's waterfowler.

[Dave Noreen]

I stopped by after skeet shooting today and checked on the Lefever 8-gauge bird gun. We put it on the scale and it was a svelte 11 pounds 14.1 ounces.

[George M. Purtill]

Charlie
I promise not to hi-jack your thread but does anyone make inserts for 8 gauge guns that I could shoot 10 gauge shells in.

[charlie cleveland]

guage mates use to make them even had 8 ga to 12 ga but saddley i think they dont make those sizes any more...if you find somebody who makes them let me know...charlie

[Eric Eis]

There are a few light eights out there. A friend sold a #5 frame gun that was very light, but I don't know the exact weight. One DH 30" eight in my collection weighs exactly ten pounds, a real lighty. It is the only 30" hammerless eight in the stock books. It was ordered by T.H. Keller, a waterfowler's waterfowler.

Bill I had 8ga DH straight grip flat rib 30' barrel, it was a real light weight and it lettered to those options.

[charlie cleveland]

ive run across 3 lefevers that were 8 ga s that were for sale on differant gun auctions besides the ones on julia s auction at the present..so this makes 5 all told i no of...one of those 8 ga lefevers was listed as a really heavy 10 ga....i bid on this gun but never got it later some fellow posted on this site that he had won it and indeed it was a 8 ga...charlie