1866 parker shotgun

[gary zehr]

Hello folks,
I'm trying to get the value of a 1866 parker bros double barrel shotgun with the serial no. of B 245 T. that was given to my wife in 1972. I think I have a few pictures in attactments. I plan on providing more pictures when the lighting around here is better. One earlier post asked about the date. On the gun in front of the triggers is written patented 19 Nov 1866.

[Harry Collins]

Gary,

Not a bad looking early Parker. Can't wait to see better pictures. How long are the barrels?

Harry

[gary zehr]

Hi Harry,
The gun is a 10 gauge and has 30" barrels. Tried to get better pictures earlier but the light is not good enough or I don't have a very good digital camera. will try again tomorrow.

[George Lander]

Gary: In my opinion you have a very early and valuable underlever Parker that looks to be in very good condition.

Best Regards, George

[gary zehr]

Folks,
Here are few more pictures I hope. I have not been able to get a clear picture of the barrel that attaches to the stock.

[gary zehr]

think I got the hang of posting pictures. Best I can do for now. Please feel free to commit.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Gary, Looks a lot like a gun I have A1943 but it is a back action 12ga. Your gun looks to be in great shape congrats.

[Bruce Day]

Per the Serialization Book, SN 2451 is a laminated steel barreled, base grade, underlifter in 12ga with 30" barrels. The gun was made in 1874.

[todd allen]

The screws are out of time. I'll give you 300.00 as is.

[todd allen]

All seriousness aside, that is an awesome page out of the Parker Gun history.

[Anthony Zotos]

Hello, just picked up a Parker from an Aunt who's father hunted with me. He passed away and no one else hunts in their family. Gun has been repaired at the barrels, cannot tell the caliber, under side is stamped patented Nov. 19, 1866. Very poor condition right now, I'm planning on cleaning it up myself. Any suggestions?

[Anthony Zotos]

Looks similar to the photo's posted above, will look for serial numbers another day.

[gary zehr]

Hi Anthoy,
I'm not much of a hunter. The gun I have was givin to us almost 40 years ago and I have never fired it. Only thing I have done is clean it with oil and wipe it down. There are a few restoration people out there that may be able to make it look new again but it will cost you. I would be interested in the serial number on the gun. That would tell you when the gun was made. Most all parkers have the same pat no. Nov 19 1866 on it. Mine was made in 1874 and has had the double barrel replaced. Parker made a great gun. Stay in touch.

[Anthony Zotos]

Spoke with Gary earlier via email, I was given a similar gun from an Aunt of mine. Do not see any caliber maybe a 12ga. the serial no. is 4741 and has 30" barrels. Wondering if anyone can help with information or any other sites to visit. I was told by a gun collector not to do anything to the gun but clean it.

[gary zehr]

Looks like your gun was made in 1875. If it looks like mine it would be a 12 ga Under Lifter hammer with a length of 30 inches. My barrel was Laminated steel and used the Quality 0and Quality 1 gun. Since my barrel was replaced it is now a Damascus Barrel. Your gun is one of the older parkers. Congrads on your recent gift. Not much help with any other sites. I found this site about the best one out there.

[Leighton Stallones]

I have an early lifter also very similar. It is B3081 and pictures below.
Mine is Damascus and not twist. I thought the B's were all Damascus, but evidently not.
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[Austin W Hogan]

I have B3083. It like many other 3000 serial range guns now has a fore end latch and rebounding hammers. My B 3291 has a fore end "bow tie" checking pattern like 3081, but 3083 has three equal size diamonds in the checking.
The 2000 - 5000 serial range may be the most interesting part of Parker evolution. It appears that King revolution ized many things during that period.

Best, Austin

[Dean Romig]

Generally speaking Damascus barrels were the standard on Grade 2 and above but there must be a serial number beginning point that Austin probably can tell us.

The three point forend checkering (bow tie) is also the standard for the Grade 2 guns and the small center points were to allow for the forend key. The three equally sized points, I believe, were introduced along with the Deely style latch.

[Leighton Stallones]

Austin, my 3081B has rebounding Hammers also. Is yours a straight grip also?

[Anthony Zotos]

Hey Gary, after further review of the Parker I found the serial no. T4741, not sure if that helps any. I also received a single shot 12 ga. "JANNEY, SEMPLE, HILL & CO" MINNEAPOLIS, MINN. You have to remove a pin to take the barrel off, the butt plate says; MOHAWK GUN CO. serial no. 3102. Just cleaning them,wondering if anyone may have additional information about these guns?????

[Bill Murphy]

There are hundreds of entries on google about the company that marketed your gun. However, there is little likelyhood that they manufactured the gun.