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Eric Johanen
02-05-2016, 04:57 PM
Out for a clays shoot this morning with the Greener hammer gun. I shot some with the 19.0 grain Red Dot 1 1/8 oz. load and tested a Sherman Bell load using SR4756: Federal hulls trimmed to 2&7/8 inch, Winchester primers, 35.0 grains of SR4756, Remington SP 10 wad, 1&1/4 oz. of #7.5 shot, 6 point crimp. (1212 fps @ 5400 psi) Good in cold weather 23 degrees and no off sounding shots. Easy on the gun and easy on the gunner! Birds were shattered when I centered them up. I had a bunch of misses by shooting over and blame it on the light and dark background. Could not be poor shooting on my part! I have now two really nice shooting loads for my short 10's and am pleased with the results. I'll test the load again on Sunday with my other Short 10 hammer gun. Really liking this!!
Frank Cronin
02-05-2016, 05:44 PM
I like 4756. This was my go to powder for the short 10. Meters nice with the MEC reloader. Never an issue although I've heard people having bloopers in really cold weather.
The problem is finding it since it is discontinued. I'm saving the 1 1/2 lbs I have left for field loads.
charlie cleveland
02-05-2016, 08:23 PM
those red dot loads work eaqually well with a 1 1/8 ounce of shot.it willy smack them crows at45 to 50 yards....charlie
Eric Johanen
02-05-2016, 08:37 PM
Charlie, I used the 1 1/8 oz. load. Edit to correct initial post. I did want to see how the SR4756 load worked with lead and it was fine. I know we are a niche group and realize why IMR discontinued several good powders. I do hope some company will make new powders that will work well and keep pressures low for the older guns.
Rick Losey
02-05-2016, 09:11 PM
i lucked into a good supply of 4756 and 7625 by hitting all the local dealers when it was announced they were being dropped.
i like the performance
i hope to feed the short tens a steady diet for a while yet
Eric Johanen
02-09-2016, 09:17 AM
I was able to do the same after the powders were dropped. I really like the SR7625 for low pressure /good velocity loads in my 16 ga. and recalled reading a article by Ross Seyfreid in Guns & Ammo from the 80's where he was extolling the use of IMR4756 in Damascus barrels. (Greener hammer guns) At the time I never thought I'd have a use for it, but that has changed. Now that I'm a light/ short 10 user I like the velocity/pressure application with this powder. Planning on using 4756 with 1&1/4 oz. bismuth for non toxic applications. This load worked very well with lead on the clays course with just a slight increase in felt recoil over the Red Dot 1&1/8 oz. loading. Checked inventory at a local shop I frequent and they had ten 8 pounders and a dozen 1 pounder bottles back in the magazine. Probably a bit hard to move and they were happy to sell me 3 of the 8 pounders. Also added to my 7625 supply. Feel like I'm good to go for the future and these powders will get used. Both hammer guns fit well and are great fun to shoot. They will have little time resting in the gun safe!
Paul Harm
02-10-2016, 10:17 AM
Any 12ga load of moderate pressure will work in the 10 with even less pressure. I've used 700X, American select, Promo, Red Dot, and Green Dot. Because the chamber of a 10 is bigger in diameter than a 12, the pressure is less. Years back when using 4756 in my 12 with low pressure loads in the winter I got bloopers. Have never used it again.
Eric Johanen
02-10-2016, 10:41 AM
Paul, I'm getting soft as I age and do not shoot when the temp is below 20 degrees. Last outing the temp at shooting time was 23 degrees, sunshine and very little wind chill. I experienced no bloopers or off sounding reports. Load worked just fine. Sitting in a blind when I can't feel my ears or toes days are behind me. Also, deer stand at 10 below is not high on my list any longer. Just an old softy!
Pete Lester
02-13-2016, 03:19 PM
My experience with 4756 in the short ten was such that I stopped using it. It didn't seem to matter whether it was roll crimp or flat crimp, Fed209A primer or not, it had a high incidence of squib loads. Those squibs loads tended to happen when it mattered, usually shooting at Canada geese.
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