8 ga. hulls

[charlie cleveland]

i recently bought 40 8 ga winchester hulls once fired..there is a problem with them they are very hard to knock the primers out..i ruined the first two hulls..inside the hull thebase has a card board base the hole to the primer is only about 1/2 the size it use to be..the normal primer removal tip is to big th go down the smaller hole...i then said ok just get a smaller punch to go down the small hole..this works but now you only punch out the inner part of the primer and then its the devil to get the rest of the primer out..so beware of this new problem in reloading 8 ga winchester hulls..i have not over come this problem yet...has anyone else encountered this yet...charlie

[Paul Harm]

Could you go down in [ with maybe a over size drill so it's long enough ] and drill out just the base wad. Could maybe do it by hand. Then a regular punch would work.

[charlie cleveland]

thanks paul i believe that will work..charlie

[charlie cleveland]

do any of you fellas reloading 8 ga remington one fired hulls have trouble trying to put the plastic wad in the hull have problems pushing it in the hull...this evening i was loading up some remington hulls once fired well they were just about impossible to get that plastin wadding in the hull well i decided it would take to long to load up a box of these hulls....i then came upon a idea that made loading them much easyer..i took my knife and cut a slit in the mouth of the hull right in the center of the hull mouth about 1/4 of and inch long..makes loading the wad a lot better...the hull still roll crimps just fine..if these were hunting loads i would seal the end of the shell with hot wax or a hot glue gun this would make them water proof then....but just for target shoot will be fine as they are..charlie

[charlie cleveland]

i fired a coupla of these shells this afternoon really worked out fine...iwhat do some of you other fellows do on these remington once fired shells to help yall get a plastin wad in the hull....charlie

[Bill Murphy]

It's been a while since I broke out the eight gauge loading equipment, but I think I made a wad seater out of a piece of copper pipe, ran it through a grinder to taper the end to fit in the mouth. Start with a piece of pipe that is big enough inside to accept the wad.

[charlie cleveland]

never thought of that bill will try the pipe system...charlie

[wayne goerres]

That's a good idea. I beleave i will try that trick myself.

[William Davis]

Going from memory so it may not be correct.

I think Dixie Gun works years ago suggested water In the case, supported over a block that's relieved under the primer. Tight fitting dowel in its mouth then whack it with a hammer.

Think I would try it with a common 12 G first . Hydraulic pressure is powerful may work.

William

[Bill Murphy]

It will take days to dry out the base wad once it gets wet.

[charlie cleveland]

this would probably work on those winchester hull but as bill says it would take a while for the hull to dry out..now this idea of yours william would work fine on brass hulls...charlie

[wayne goerres]

The plastic hulls would probable expand outward before the primer comes out. It will work with brass hulls.

[Paul Harm]

I'm planning on loading for the 8ga [ if I ever get it back for the gunsmith ] and was going to use fiber wads. I can't remember who, but someone came to my shoot with a 8ga and I could see the powder getting by the wad. Think it was a Winchester hull you could see into when loaded - the wad seemed to fit awful loose. Anyone have this problem with the 8 ?

[wayne goerres]

I have loaded both ways using plastic wads and using fiber wads. I didn't have that problem.Fair warning Paul,if you are thinking of using black powder in the plastic hulls you will only get one loading per hull. It burns holes right through the side of the hulls.

[Paul Harm]

Oh I'm quite aware of BP burning through the hull - been doing it since the 70's. With BP, it's load em once and then throw them away. I just like a tight fit between the wad and hull and believe fiber would do it better after seeing some 8ga loaded shells with plastic wads. I was just wondering if this was a common occurrence.

[Bill Murphy]

If the fit of the fiber wads is too loose, the solution is to order some 7 gauge wads.

[charlie cleveland]

paul i have had this problem sometimes with the powder going half way up the wad but only a few flakes...have shot them this way no problems...charlie

[Paul Harm]

Bill, it was the fit of plastic wads, that's why I was thinking of fiber wads.

[Mark Ouellette]

Gents,

I have had no problems loading almost 1000 8 gauge shells using a converted MEC 600, Winchester and Remington hulls, and Remington SP-8 wads.

The results were witnessed at Hausmann's Hidden Hollow two summers ago by a military size squad of humble PGCA shooters.

Last summer I allowed a half dozen Parker and Fox guys to try the Fox Bo-Whoop long range shoot with my DH 8 and handloads.

The SP-8 wads and Win & Rem hulls work fine for me. The swaging and reloading equipment work great and are easier to obtain than is a decent 8 gauge.

[wayne goerres]

Mark hit on something that I didn't think of. I also run mine through a sizing die. Thats probable why the powder dosn't slip past the wads.