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Phillip Carr
12-29-2015, 07:23 AM
I will be looking at a 20 gauge today that I believe is a skeet gun. If I recall it is a late model Remington gun made in the early 40's. It has a checkered butt, PG stock, 26" barrels. I have a few questions. As I recall it has double triggers. I am not sure if this is correct for a skeet configuration. Also would the records reflect if a gun was a skeet gun or not?

Pete Lester
12-29-2015, 08:29 AM
The records will not specify "Skeet Gun".

The most common configuration for Skeet guns; 26" barrels, double ivory beads, choked "Skeet Out" right barrel, "Skeet In" left barrel and stamped as such, ejectors, beavertail forend, SST, straight grip, checked butt, none automatic safety.

Some Skeet guns were made with a pistol grip.

There are DelGrego "converted" Skeet guns out there.

Phillip Carr
12-29-2015, 08:38 AM
I will try to post pictures tonight. We are going quail hunting this morning and will be shooting this gun. Its all original finish, a fair amount of honest wear.

Chad Hefflinger
12-29-2015, 06:14 PM
Skeet guns should have a non automatic safety as well as skeet in/out on the barrel flats and a beavertail fore end. The right barrel should be skeet out or the tighter constriction of the two.

Phillip Carr
12-29-2015, 06:21 PM
Headed home now the S/N is 2424075. Post more from home tonight

Richard White
12-29-2015, 06:24 PM
Too many numbers, Phil.

Phillip Carr
12-29-2015, 08:26 PM
Yes too many numbers. It is 241475

Phillip Carr
12-29-2015, 10:14 PM
Looks like there are records on the gun. Unfortunately Remington I understand did not keep track of who ordered the guns. It does show up in the Serialization book. Showing option 11 which is Ejectors and large Forend. Chokes are .010 RT and .015 Left. Double triggers, capped pistol grip, checkered butt.

Russ Jackson
12-29-2015, 10:20 PM
Looks like there are records on the gun. Unfortunately Remington I understand did not keep track of who ordered the guns. It does show up in the Serialization book. Showing option 11 which is Ejectors and large Forend. Chokes are .010 RT and .015 Left. Double triggers, capped pistol grip, checkered butt.

It must of been an exciting day Phil with the prospects of hunting with and then purchasing a new Skeet Gun especially in 20 Gauge ! As for the Remington IBM information ,you are correct but as with everything Parker there always seem to be an exception ! A certain 20 Gauge I purchased years ago ,I just recently decided to attempt to chase the Provenance ,I decided years ago ,no point in a letter but just last month ,I decided to give it a go and what do you know ,there was a name attached to the IBM and the Initials on the guns Silver Oval matched perfectly !

Phillip Carr
12-29-2015, 10:33 PM
It most certainly was a pretty neat day. It actually snowed on us for the first half. ( I know Chris Dawe will not believe that after he hunted this same area a few weeks ago and we could not carry enough water for the dogs.)

Shot a few birds so it was a great day. Really like the gun and have taken some pictures and will post more of them in the morning.

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Phillip Carr
12-29-2015, 10:35 PM
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Phillip Carr
12-29-2015, 10:36 PM
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Chuck Bishop
12-29-2015, 10:58 PM
Phil, I replied to you via PM. Most of the time, the IBM card does not list who the gun was sold to. In Phil'S case it did. In all cases when the name is given, it does not give the city and state. It'S then time for Google! I don't think this gun was a true Parker skeet gun as listed in the catalog but it could be used as one. Just my opinion.

Phillip Carr
12-29-2015, 11:13 PM
Thank you Chuck I really appreciate the info
Best Regards
Phil

Eric Eis
12-30-2015, 09:34 AM
Looks like there are records on the gun. Unfortunately Remington I understand did not keep track of who ordered the guns. It does show up in the Serialization book. Showing option 11 which is Ejectors and large Forend. Chokes are .010 RT and .015 Left. Double triggers, capped pistol grip, checkered butt.

Phil, I have a 20 ga Skeet gun made by Remington with the IBM card and it had the owners name and Bill Murphy researched it and found that he was a fairly well known Skeet shooter from TX. So never say never.....

Rich Anderson
12-30-2015, 09:52 AM
The barrel flats should be marked skeet in/out as previously stated. I didn't see that in the photo. A skeet configured gun is more likely the case here. Nothing wrong with that but it wouldn't command the price of a true skeet gun. There are far less skeet guns with a PG as most were straight grip.

At the end of the day it's a nice small bore and a great upland gun.

Phillip Carr
12-30-2015, 02:12 PM
This gun clearly is not marked skeet. Oh well I kind of like double triggers anyway. I ordered a letter this morning so I can learn the name of the buyer. The family sold two 20 gauge Parkers that they say was the grandfathers since new. The other was a DHE with 30 inch barrels. It has Remington markings showing it was sent back May of 1945. This VHE gun has Remington markings showing it was built in March of 1945. HOPE TO GAIN SOME HISTORY!

Chad Hefflinger
12-30-2015, 02:30 PM
Congratulations Phil
20 gauge, beavertail, ejectors, checkered butt, .010/.015 chokes... I'd say a very nice gun indeed!

Bill Murphy
12-30-2015, 04:13 PM
Phil, give us the name of the buyer in case he is someone we will be able to research.

Phillip Carr
12-30-2015, 04:24 PM
Thank you Bill I absolutly we do that. I would really like to find out about the owner. The family also sold a winchester 218 Bee and a Winchester 220 Swift. He had used them so much the bluing even on the scopes was worn almost off. I should have bought the swift. A man really needs to use a gun a lot to see that amount of wear. The were not abused as all of the bores were good.

Chuck Bishop
12-30-2015, 05:18 PM
Phil, if you know the last name of the buyer who supposidly bought it new, send me it on PM. It is difficult to make out the letters in the last name.

Phillip Carr
12-30-2015, 07:49 PM
Will do Chuck i will see what i can find out this week.

Phillip Carr
12-30-2015, 09:52 PM
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Phillip Carr
12-30-2015, 09:57 PM
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DHE 20 gauge sister gun

charlie cleveland
12-30-2015, 10:08 PM
one pretty sister you got there...the origanal buyer of this gun sure knew what to order...a great pair of 20 ga. you got there phil....charlie