Really?

[edgarspencer]

I guess the bidding is because of the Hamden rarity:whistle:

“This shotgun has been brought back to the condition in which it would have left Parker’s Hamden, Connecticut factory in 1879.”

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=531438656

[Rick Losey]

you could have warned me

soos i could have put on hip boots before wading through that BS

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[John Dallas]

Hmmm. A 12 gauge choked (unchoked?) to .760. Yep. Those Parker chokes are special.

[Mark Landskov]

The 'original', non-matching, hammers are a nice touch, also!

[charlie cleveland]

this gun maybe a 10 ga with bores that big...charlie

[Brian Dudley]

The actual restoration work on the gun is excellent. However, I just cant stand when I see hammer screws out of time on restored guns though. It happens a little too often though.

The sellers description is full of a lot of fanfare that is worthless.

[Chuck Bishop]

That slip would have to be worth $2500 for both to bring the current price IMHO. Wish I knew the S/N.

[Brian Dudley]

The bid price is very bewildering, just speaking from a standpoint of what the gun is, a restored 0 grade.

[wayne goerres]

I am sure who ever the buyer is will be posting on here to find out what his new Parker is worth.

[Dean Romig]

Looking through the "Bid History" I don't see a single bidder I recognize.
Where did they all come from??





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[edgarspencer]

It's a fund raising auction I believe. People often open up their wallet, and shut down their brain when it's some "cause'.

[Russ Jackson]

When I first seen it listed I wondered where it would go and put it on my watch list , I don't think it is close to the end of the bidding either , the advertisement on it makes it sound like something really special !!!!!!!!!!! If you notice it has already been viewed 3521 times ,truly amazing already with a long way to go to the end of the auction ! Best thing to do is sit back and watch and keep your finger away from that bid button !!!!!!:rotf:

[edgarspencer]

Doesn't anyone else find it annoying that they can't even remember where the Parker gun was made?
Hamden? Sheesh.

[Eric Estes]

Despite the errors and other issues you have to give the seller credit for an overall well done, if not completely accurate, listing. So many sellers throw up terrible pictures and one line descriptions. It is all about the sales pitch. This person did a good job with the sales pitch. I suppose reusing Turnbull's excellent pictures helped make that easier.

[Mills Morrison]

Must be a case of two bidders playing king of the castle.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Yea I need a fund raiser, my grandson is heading for the mission fields with his family on March 30th very expensive for a 5 year stay, Gary

[Mills Morrison]

An early EH just sold for what I thought was a strong price. Maybe the market is picking up.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=530988629

[wayne goerres]

Seems like a fair price considering the condition of the but stock.

[greg conomos]

Really....any Parker in "one piece" that is under $1000 becomes well priced. By "one piece" I mean nothing is missing, the barrels are not dented up or corroded, the wood is fixable without too many heroics, etc.

On that EH, I'm kinda wondering why the 'Parker Bros' script on each side looks so crisp and shiny. It's almost like someone took an engraving tool and chased the lettering for some reason. Well, on second look I see the receiver has been 'recolored' so in that case it looks like they chased the script but not any of the rest of the engraving. Kinda like buying an old car an repainting just one fender.

[Bill Murphy]

Broken stock and bad amateur refinishing that didn't come out quite right, questionable bores? I think this is an extremely strong price or an uninformed buyer.

[Russ Jackson]

To get back to the auction gun Edgar posted about , with all the Pomp in the ad and Hamden as the Manufacturing Place , has any one else noticed the 29 1/2" Barrels ,why in the World would Turnbull's have put so much effort and time into a gun with clipped Barrels ?????????? I am not saying it isn't an eye catcher but... ! Like Real Estate has always been Location ,Location ,Location , Double guns have always been about the Barrels ! I Don't Know !:eek:

[Mark Landskov]

The mismatched hammers wouldn't be a feather in Turnbull's cap, either. I would like to think that Turnbull informed the owner before proceeding.

[greg conomos]

The auction claims the barrels are original length

[Russ Jackson]

The auction claims the barrels are original length

29 1/2 " ???? I sure don't profess to knowing all things Parker but I have never run into that in all the Letters I have on these guns , has any one else ? I have owned Parker Guns with 1/16 more barrel length but never a half inch less .

[Mills Morrison]

29 1/2 does not make you feel good.

[Dave Suponski]

Not that I have any interest in this gun but it has the squared off breech face with no radius .It was built in an era when 29 1/2" barrels could have been factory.

[Russ Jackson]

Thanks for the comment on this Dave , My ignorance on the early Hammer guns possibly but I wouldn't feel comfortable with it , just my opinion !

[greg conomos]

I'm assuming (with the greatest of confidence) they have a PGCA letter which verifies the barrel length. Otherwise, who would state such a thing.........?

[Chuck Bishop]

I usually don't comment on these things but will give just a little bit of info. The gun has entries in 3 different stock books, all entries by the same individual. The gun is a $60.00 Dollar Grade gun. The barrels were originally 30" Twist. The last return for repair was to cut off crack at the end of the muzzle so 29 1/2" is correct. Everything else appears to be original Parker work.

Certainly the gun is way overpriced but considering it's for a good cause, the bidders probably don't care. It is a nice looking gun. There was never a research letter written on the gun.

Opps, I meant Order Books!

[Mike Franzen]

Interesting Chuck. Price is probably driven by NSSF members wanting bragging rights. It's a nice looking Parker regardless of mismatched hammers. At least it's not a T. Parker. Where is Hamden anyway?

[Russ Jackson]

Really , I am not trying to beat a Dead Horse here but what is the general opinion cut or not cut , even though " Factory Cut Barrels " which would have been done correctly I'm sure , and are correct per the letter , would the general collector / buyer consider this " Original and still as valuable or Cut and the value partially lost ? I know Factory installed Pad's etc. per the letter really help that situation when depending on the grade most would have had DHBP's or Skeleton Plates but Barrels , what do you guys think ?

[Dave Suponski]

Russ, I would consider factory altered as factory original. We know of a few hammerguns that were in stock and had the barrels cut at the factory before shipment to fill an order.

[Russ Jackson]

Dave ,I do understand that but the findings for this particular gun says ,sent back to have barrels shortened ,I would agree if it was mentioned cut to " ..... at time of shipping then I would agree ,Original but ? Really I have no skin in the game ,Just Saying !

[Mills Morrison]

Cut by factory is better than cut by a shade tree hacksaw, but they're still not original. IMHO. I have other things to spend 4 grand on

[Dave Suponski]

Guy's Its just my opinion of course but I would buy a gun as factory original /factory altered if it was in the letter no problem. I have a gun here that left Parker Bros. as a P Grade 12 gauge and now it a Titanic barreled 16 gauge and this gun letters. I consider it factory original.

[Brian Dudley]

Up to $6,800 on this one currently. Some people must really like the idea of spending way too much money for charity.

[Mills Morrison]

It's probably the only one made in Hamden

[Russ Jackson]

It's probably the only one made in Hamden

:rotf::rotf:

[Mills Morrison]

Some of these charities line up bidders ahead of time to bid on these big items. It is probably some board member who has never owned a double gun in his life but agreed to do this "for the cause". Who the other bidder is is any body's guess

[Michael Moffa]

I have a 16 ga grade 3 with 28" barrels that according to the letter and the serial book was 29" and requested to be shortened by the factory. It's an 0 frame and a dream to swing with high original condition. Paid for the privilege of owning it.

[will evans]

Some of these charities line up bidders ahead of time to bid on these big items. It is probably some board member who has never owned a double gun in his life but agreed to do this "for the cause". Who the other bidder is is any body's guess

True, and even better is that a quality Parker won't be wasted on someone who never has any intention of properly appreciating the gun. This is much better than if a 20ga hammer gun were being auctioned.

[Chuck Bishop]

I don't know all the IRS rules for tax rightoffs but can't both the doner and buyer claim a deduction for charity?

[Dean Romig]

Yes, within the complex guidelines of the law, they both can.






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[Jay Gardner]

I believe the buyer can deduct what he paid for the item above market value but not the entire price.

[edgarspencer]

I have a 16 ga grade 3 with 28" barrels that according to the letter and the serial book was 29" and requested to be shortened by the factory. It's an 0 frame and a dream to swing with high original condition. Paid for the privilege of owning it.

It goes without saying,

[Rick Losey]

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[John Dallas]

I'm not an attorney,and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but I believe Jay is correct

[Michael Moffa]

Here you go. 16 ga with factory cut barrels and added ejectors.

[Dean Romig]

Really nice one Michael.





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[Michael Moffa]

I purchased it from the Ivory Bead Boys in Vegas 4 years ago. In fact I bought all the 16's they had. It was a weekend of phenomenal Parkeritis.