Champion RC 4 Shotgun Shells

[George Davis]

Saturday I shot Wobble with several boxes of Champion RC 4 Excellence Trap Shells. Loaded at 24 grams of 7 1/2 shot at a velocity 1360 and the representative told us the PSI is only 8,000. I'm totally impressed with the shell performance and the light recoil. The challenge is they are not a inexpensive shell to purchase.
Has anyone else had experience with these shells? What do you think?

[Austin J Hawthorne Jr.]

No experience with those, but I can reload the same shot weight @ 1325 fps and 7400 psi. Have you ever considered reloading? A box of 25 shells with a 24 gram payload sets me back about $ 4.75

[George Davis]

I've reloaded for years and have several pet loads for the various games and my antiques but those RC 4 were special.

[Paul Harm]

Just wondering, what was special other than the price ?

[George Davis]

Little no recoil and throw a great pattern, both down range and at the pattern board. The pattern on the board was consistent with three different guys shooting and different guns.

[Matt Valinsky]

Austin, What ga. are you shooting and would you mind sharing your recipe?

[Paul Harm]

In my IMR manual they show some loads with discontinued PB or 7625 as low as 5700psi. With 18.5grs of 700X, mild primer, and a CB-1100 or 2100 wad it's 8500psi at 1325fps. Or the same combo with 15grs/1150fps/5500psi, 16grs/1200fps/6350psi, or 17grs/1250fps/7200psi. If it were me I'd stay around 17grs/1250fps/7200psi. I don't really see a reason for more than 1200/1250 fps - the faster shot starts, the quicker it slows down and I like a little less recoil. If someone likes the 1325fps loads, go for it.

[George Davis]

I'm like you I hate recoil.
My Wobble and Bunker Trap load;
Remington 209 primer
19 grains of 700X
7/8 grains of shot.
Winchester Hulls

I shoot these loads in either of my Browning Superposed with 32 inch barrels.


Second shot in Wobble can be a long shot and that is was intrigues me with 1370 with limited recoil.

I hunt with my Parkers or Foxes so totally different loads.

[Austin J Hawthorne Jr.]

Matt
I use Red Dot powder now since I have just managed to snag a four year supply of it. I wanted to work up a fast load to use with a spreader insert, and while it is true that faster loads lose their velocity faster, it is also true that spreader inserts are more efficient at high speed, and I don't use them for targets that can't be hit within 25 yards.
As for my load, for my use only, and in my gun only: 24 grams #8 shot...Remington Nitro 27 once fired hulls...Fed. 209 primers...Rem. TGT 12 wads with a 20 gauge over shot card at the bottom of the wad, and a Ballistic Products X insert....19.5 grains of Red Dot finishes the load. The PSI is a close estimate, and the velocity is what my chronagraph indicates at 2 feet from the muzzle.
Austin

[John Dallas]

I was surprised to read Tom Roster's testing of hulls which had been fired once, versus those fired many times. Apparently made no difference in the velocity. At least once-fired hulls look better