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Phillip Carr
10-24-2015, 02:43 PM
Can anyone tell me when the first 1 1/2 frame Parker was built?
charlie cleveland
10-24-2015, 03:37 PM
phil are you getting tierd of toteing that big 8 ga...charlie
Bill Murphy
10-24-2015, 03:45 PM
Only Chuck Bishop can tell you. Maybe not, though, since frame sizes noted in stock books came a bit later if I recall right.
Phillip Carr
10-24-2015, 03:48 PM
Charlie it does get a little heavy at times. When I need a break I take the W C Scott it weighs a pound less. LOL.
I noticed today, my DH made in 1896 is on a 1 1/2 frame.
Brian Dudley
10-24-2015, 04:06 PM
They were making guns on the 1-1/2 frame in the 1890s. I can tell you that.
Dean Romig
10-24-2015, 04:11 PM
The Parker Story references a known 1898 gun with the 1 1/2 frame size so if yours is truly a 1896 gun with athe 1 1/2 frame size it may certainly be or be one of the very first Parkers made on that frame size.
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Phillip Carr
10-24-2015, 05:57 PM
Dean this is my first Parker and the one I reference in the Dog/Parker story I forwarded to you. I had never noticed until today that it was on a one and a half frame, also one of only a dozen DH's mentioned in the Parker Story with the first Vulcan Steel barrels.
Dean Romig
10-24-2015, 06:11 PM
I received the pictures today Phil - That's one very interesting DH for sure!
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John Gardner
10-28-2015, 03:42 AM
I pcked up a CH 1 1/2 frame made in 1895 a couple years ago. I'd have to check the letter for details.
Jeff Bonadurer
10-28-2015, 11:36 AM
Hi Phil,
My DH was produced in 1895. It's a 1 1/2 frame size.
Best regards,
Jeff Bonadurer
Phillip Carr
10-28-2015, 11:43 AM
Thanks John and Jeff. It appears so far that 1895 is the earliest so far. Thank you for sharing.
Mills Morrison
10-28-2015, 01:38 PM
The earliest one here would be a good candidate for Parkers Found.
Phillip Carr
10-28-2015, 01:55 PM
Great idea.
Chuck Bishop
10-28-2015, 02:33 PM
Parker as a general rule, didn't put frame sizes in the order books. I think I remember a few notes on the frame but very few. The same is true in the stock books up until 1925. Parker changed the type of register they used and it included a column for frame sizes. On the 12ga. generally a 1 frame would weigh in the high 6 pound to low 7 pound range. 1 1/2 frames would be from 7 to the mid 7 pound range, and the 2 frame would be from the high 7 pounds to the 8 pound range. Of course there are exceptions due to barrel length and denser wood. Trojans were on the 2 frame and they seem to be in the 7 pound range from the few pages I've looked at.
Frank Cronin
10-28-2015, 04:49 PM
My GH 82003 1 1/2 frame was built in 1895. Last I looked in the Parker's Found my serial number is earlier than the one listed.
Phillip Carr
10-28-2015, 11:34 PM
You have me beat my DH S/N is 82226
John Gardner
10-29-2015, 01:02 AM
Me too I have 82331
allen newell
11-03-2015, 05:56 PM
My GH is 74843, 1894 Frame size is 1 w/32 inch barrels
FRANK HALSEY
11-04-2015, 03:56 PM
I just got a DH uplifter that has a 1 frame mark on the barrels number to the gun serial number 26101. What is the earliest 1 frame? Anyone have a guess? Frank
Jim DiSpagno
11-04-2015, 04:08 PM
Got one with a four digit serial number, will post it when I get home tomorrow night
Dean Romig
11-04-2015, 04:15 PM
Yes, the 1-Frame goes all the way back to when Parker Bros. first began to make standardized frame sizes.
On the earliest ones the 1 may have not been stamped on the barrel lug but you can bet the pin separations were standardized.
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Mills Morrison
11-04-2015, 04:18 PM
Yes, I would think the first 1 frame would be pretty early. I remember seeing an early 11 gauge on a 0 frame, of all things.
Dean Romig
11-04-2015, 04:26 PM
I remember seeing an early 11 gauge on a 0 frame, of all things.
I think I would like to witness in sixteenths of an inch the firing pin separation on that one :shock:
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