Grip Cap ?

[Dave Miles]

A friend of mine is looking at a 12 gauge, V grade, Remington era gun, with a single trigger. The grip cap say's Remington Arms. Is this correct?
I have seen very few Remington guns myself, and don't know.

[Dean Romig]

Dave, is it a "transition" gun (ser. # 236ish) or a very early Illion gun?

[Eric Eis]

Dave if it's a late gun it could say Remington on it and I have seen late guns that had earlier caps.

[Bruce Day]

GHE 20ga/26" SN 241,600 , original.

[Rich Anderson]

Dave I just looked at three guns with serial numbers in the 230-241 range and all the caps said Parker Bros.

[Tom Kidd]

Dave, I had a nearly unfired [(I]original finishes)[/I]VHE Skeet 12 ga., serialed in the later 230's, with a Remington marked PG cap that I sold at the old Toledo show in the '60's and I seem to remember another or two that I have seen over the years that I felt were original!

[Dean Romig]

A 230XXX gun would have been made in 1929, five years before Remington aquired Parker Guns. 236531 was the first Parker produced under Remington and those produced until the Parker project was moved ti Ilion are generally considered "transition" guns and display characteristics of both Parker Bros. and of the Remington Parker. Remington had an ample supply of grip caps cast with "Meriden Ct." and we see examples of very late guns with this cap. (Eric, what is the cap on your NIB VHE skeet gun?) I would think a Parker shotgun with a Remington grip cap must have been sent to Remington for repairs and such a cap was installed then. I would also think the majority of Parker shotguns with a Remington grip cap should also have Remington repair codes stamped into the barrel flats.

I'll qualify this whole paragraph by saying "never say never" and "but there is an exception to every rule" and "but not always".

[Bill Murphy]

Just saw a gun with April 1945 Remington repair codes with a Remington grip cap, no Parker marking at all. They must have run out because this is a restock, probably from the 1945 repair.

[Dave Miles]

I don't know the S/N. He just called me and asked about the grip cap.
I didn't know, so I told him I'd try and find out. I'll try and get more info from him.
Might just buy the gun myself. I don't have a Remington Parker. :-)

[Rich Anderson]

No Remington era Parkers??:shock:, for shame for shame Mr. Miles. Get your check book out as any excuse is better than no excuse.:)

[Dean Romig]

The nice ones are pretty scarce - only about 2.5% of all Parkers made were produced under Remington ownership.

[Dave Fuller]

2366XX has a cap identical to the one Bruce showed above with "Parker" on the floor plate.

[Bruce Day]

1939 20ga.

[Eric Eis]

Just checked my guns, the new in box skeet gun is straight grip as are most of my other skeet guns, the 20 is parker grip cap and my D's are all parker grip caps. Sorry can't help

[Dean Romig]

Eric, do any of your grip caps read Parker Ilion NY ??

[Eric Eis]

No they all read Meriden

[Fred Preston]

Though clearly an Ilion gun, #238528 has a Parker Bros., Meriden PG cap. Dean, it's a 1&1/2 frame VHE 12ga, SST, BTFE, 26" bbl., checked butt, chokeless "skeet" gun. The top rib is rolled "Parker Bros. Makers, Meriden, CT. U.S.A. Vulcan Steel". Why would it need an SST; wouldn't an NSST do?

[Dean Romig]

I know Remington had an abundance of Meriden grip caps for the small frame guns but not so sure they had a lot for the 1 1/2 and larger frame Parkers. It would be nice to know, along with your style of grip cap, what frame size the gun is.

[Kurt Densmore]

It could be the same grip cap as the one on this CHE that was probably redone by Remington......the date code is struck on the barrel flat but I didn't look it up.

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=9646973&oh=216543

[Dean Romig]

If only the Remington codes would lead to documentation on what was done to the gun, I think we would see several entries on that one.

[Rich Anderson]

I have a GH 16 circa 1900 with a plain grip cap. Not a screw touched on this gun so I doubt anything stock wise was done to it. I have few pistol grip guns for comparison but the ones I have all say Parker Brothers on the cap, except this one.

[Dean Romig]

The plain grip cap with the oval checkered pattern in it was used into the early to mid-990's but it's not impossible that Parker Bros. used it on your GH 16.