Poll: DT vs ST

[Joe Bernfeld]

Rex got me thinking, so I decided to survey members of this board. So, how many DT vs ST guns are/have been owned by people on this site? I too have always heard that the number of each manufactured was around 50/50. I believe we see fewer DT guns for sale simply because more people prefer shooting them and therefore don't sell them. I've owned 8 Parker Reproductions, and all were DT. I didn't find any way to do a formal poll on this site, so I'll begin :corn::

DT:ST = 8:0

edited due to remembering one I never should have sold!

[Gary Laudermilch]

Two, both double

[Dave Suponski]

Two both single trigger guns.

[Ken Hill]

1 DT

[Robin Lewis]

2 DT

[Mills Morrison]

I have one with a single trigger. Dad has two and one is double trigger and one single trigger

[Bob Jurewicz]

All together 12 DT and 2 SST. Currently 6 DT 0 SST.
Bob Jurewicz

[Chad Hefflinger]

1 single trigger

[Joe Bernfeld]

Ok, so the running total as of Heff's post is:

DT:ST = 26:7

Interesting stuff. Anyone else care to chime in?

[Rex Northen]

All - 2 DT and 1 ST
Current - 2 DT
(Wish I hadn't sold the ST though!)

[Dean Romig]

Three total - 2 DT and 1 ST
Still own both DT guns.




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[Joe Bernfeld]

Robin Lewis told me how to do a poll, but too late now. I'll know next time :)!

Now up to 30:9

[David Noble]

3, all ST

[Ray Alvey]

(6) Single
(2) Double

[Herb Hewlett]

1 ST

[Paul Ehlers]

I've owned approximately 20 repro's over the years and still have two. A 16/20 & a 28"-28ga.

All of them have been double trigger guns.

At this point it appears this thread is showing the bias here toward DT gun's. The greater majority you see for sale are single triggers.

[Harry Collins]

Currently in the closet 9:1

[Fred Lowe]

I've owned 11
6 ST
5 DT
Current 2 DT
1 ST

10 28 ga
1 20 ga

[Robin Lewis]

I've owned approximately 20 repro's over the years and still have two. A 16/20 & a 28"-28ga.

All of them have been double trigger guns.

At this point it appears this thread is showing the bias here toward DT gun's. The greater majority you see for sale are single triggers.

I have to wonder if taking this survey here doesn't skew the results because original Parker's were DT and "we" collect them, thus we have a bias toward DT?

[Dean Romig]

I have to wonder if taking this survey here doesn't skew the results because original Parker's were DT and "we" collect them, thus we have a bias toward DT?


Regardless of period of manufacture or even manufacturer's name, I would still opt for a DT SXS... Period.

Choke/barrel selection is waay faster and more instinctive with a DT gun.






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[Steve Kleist]

Dean is spot on.
All DTs here (as in both).
Best Fishes, Steve

[Scot Cardillo]

Regardless of period of manufacture or even manufacturer's name, I would still opt for a DT SXS... Period.

Choke/barrel selection is waay faster and more instinctive with a DT gun.






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+1



Mechanical simplicity/reliability along with instant choke selection be good :)

[Eric Eis]

All I can tell you now is what is now in the vault, 8 ST, 17 Dt. I think :shock:

[Mark Landskov]

My 20 gauge has a single trigger.

[Bill Murphy]

Eric is the man. 25 Repros and we wonder why double trigger 28s are hard to find. I personally don't care. I own one double trigger beavertail straight grip two barrel 28 and really don't need another unless it is a "deal". I bought mine during the selloff when people said they couldn't get what they wanted. I think the potential customers at that time didn't give enough effort on the phone. That's how I got mine and I could have had many more, but was not smart enough.

[Joe Bernfeld]

I have to wonder if taking this survey here doesn't skew the results because original Parker's were DT and "we" collect them, thus we have a bias toward DT?

The results may be skewed, but I doubt it has anything to do with original Parkers. I've never owned one, and I wouldn't call myself a "collector." I buy guns to hunt with; if I don't use them, I sell them. I, like Dean and many of you, will only own double trigger double barrel shotguns. I even had Rich Cole convert my Beretta Diamond Pigeon 687 EELL O/U to double triggers (does an over/under count as a "double ;)"?).

[Dean Romig]

Yup it does.




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[Rex Northen]

All I can tell you now is what is now in the vault, 8 ST, 17 Dt. I think :shock:

Wow - that's quite a few PRs!

[Eric Eis]

Wow - that's quite a few PRs!

Sorry, I included two Scotish DT guns and two English in those totals....

[ForrestArmstrong]

I have several ST repros, a few DTs, wish they all had DTs. All my other SxSs have DTs.

[Tom Pellegrini]

I have two and both are DT.

[Joe Bernfeld]

Well, I give up. The closest I can count, the tally is now DT:ST 85:35, or around 71% DT. I guess we know where all the missing DT guns are :p!

[Harry Collins]

I would have converted the Miller single trigger gun back to double triggers, but the Sears were bent in the conversion.

[tom leshinsky]

3 ST

[Donovan Kirkpatrick]

4 ST
2 DT

[Bob Jurewicz]

It seems that the DT/SST poll has cooled. What became apparent to me was that many of us have owned or do own Repros with SST.
Since SST reliability has gained a poor reputation could we who have owned them address our experience with reliable function?
MINE WORKED FLAWLESSLY.
Bob Jurewicz

[Patrick Lien]

3 ST

[Rex Northen]

My single trigger A1 wasn't functional when new, it would only fire the bottom barrel. The dealer I purchased it from had me send it back and a few weeks later it was returned, working.

[Ken Hill]

This is an interesting thred (to say the least). Britain in the early 1900s, late 1890s, tried to build a reliable single trigger. Obviously this was not for instaneous choke selection since a lot of the high end guns were used for driven shooting. Double triggers are simple and reliable. However, I'm sure the other gunmakers did not want to bel "inferior" and moved to a single trigger.

DTs are simple and reliable and not needed for most shooting. How many actually care about about the instaneous choke selection? Were the original Parker single triggers that reliable?

To me, DTs are the correct approach, but modern STs are very reliable on a two barrel gun.
Ken

[Harry Collins]

I delight in the ability to chose the choke with double triggers. At sporting clays and in the field I will often chose the rear trigger first for a far bird or a going away leaving the open choke for the crosser. I most always shoot the tight barrel for going away birds.

[John Dallas]

For my money, the best trigger/safety configuration is on the Remington 3200. On the tang is a toggle which, when in the center safes the gun Moving the toggle to the left selects the bottom barrel to shoot first, and moving the toggle to the right selects the top barrel. So, taking the gun off safe selects the barrel. Brilliant!

[Dean Romig]

For my money, the best trigger/safety configuration is on the Remington 3200. On the tang is a toggle which, when in the center safes the gun Moving the toggle to the left selects the bottom barrel to shoot first, and moving the toggle to the right selects the top barrel. So, taking the gun off safe selects the barrel. Brilliant!


That's exactly how the safety worked on my 20 ga. Red Label...... Hated it!

That's one of the reasons I don't own it anymore.





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[John Dallas]

It's been a long time since I've owned a Red Label, but if I remember correctly, you moved the toggle left or right, then had to slide it forward to take it off safe. If true, it's different from the 3200

[Gary Laudermilch]

Yep, I like the double trigger for grouse, especially with a pointing dog. When walking in to a point I usually select the rear trigger until I get inside the 20 yard mark and then it is an instant change to the front, without looking or thinking.

The exception is when the weather turns really cold in late season. My hands get cold so I have to wear heavier gloves which do not work well with double triggers. Then it is on to a single trigger with a selector that is easy to use. I prefer the Browning type as I can still select on the move and without thinking about it. I guess it is what you get used to.

[John E. Williams]

Both of my Parkers have DT's. I own several other doubles with ST's but have never warmed up to them, finding the DT setup to be much more effective. The first double I ever fired, an old 16 gauge Hartford Arms hammer gun when I was around ten years of age, was so equipped and I shot that old gun so many times over the years that the preference for DT's must have became ingrained in my psyche.

[Dean Romig]

You're right John.




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[William Stevenson]

I grew up with Mod 12 Winchesters, fell in love with Parkers, but the single trigger was imprinted in my reaction time etc. All 6 of my Parkers are SST by choice and I shoot them all except for one of the .410's. In truth, I did have trouble with the trigger on the SSS 12ga, got it fixed by the 3rd gunsmith that worked on it.
Bill

[William Stevenson]

Shot a limit of Teal this morning with the 16 ga reproduction Parker. 15/16 oz of Federal #4 steel shot. The Krieghoff I/C, Mod barrels pattern this load quite well and the single trigger had never given trouble. Bill

[Tony Guccioni]

12 Gauge 2 barrel set

and

SCC

.... both SST.

[Christian Gish]

2 DT

[ron belanger]

Have owned 1 DT Repro...

[Billy Gross]

I am impressed with how many Parker Repros are out there and being shot by Parker Guys. That is a very strong an endorsement. Billy

[Phil Yearout]

DT to ST = 10 to 2, and the "2" are an SBT and an autoloader so those don't count. Barrels = triggers to me :)!

Oh, sorry; just realized this probably pertains to Parker repros, in which case my totals are 0 to 0.

[Tom Jay]

Repro 20 gauge, 2 barrel (now 3 barrel, just added 16 gauge), straight stock, single trigger

[James L. Martin]

Had a 28ga Repro ,it was a single trigger

[Joe Bernfeld]

Anyone still keeping count? I gave up :p! It does seem to me like more DT than ST though.

[Eric Eis]

DT to ST = 10 to 2, and the "2" are an SBT and an autoloader so those don't count. Barrels = triggers to me :)!

Oh, sorry; just realized this probably pertains to Parker repros, in which case my totals are 0 to 0.

I misread the original post also, so just put me down for two repros with single triggers.

[Danny McHugh]

28 gauge DT

[WmRike]

One DT (sold)
One ST