View Full Version : Anybody have English or German sxs?
Michael Muth
09-10-2015, 11:47 PM
From the Golden era? Any fancy guns from Prussia or The top makers in England (Rigby, Westley, Boss, Etc..) I'm always hesitant to post what I have, but I just might make an exception.
chris dawe
09-11-2015, 06:23 AM
I have a very nice Williams and Powell underlever 12 bore in the throws of restoration,I just recently gave up a very nice Sauer 16...these old European guns are quality throughout ,no point left untouched .
I almost forgot my big Greener 32 inch 2 5/8 ,10 bore ,according to Mr. Greener most likely a commercial hunters gun no engraving other than the makers name but the wood is beautiful
Daryl Corona
09-11-2015, 06:55 AM
Wm. Ford 20b. hammer, 30". Love it!
Kevin McCormack
09-11-2015, 09:33 AM
Holland & Holland 1891 Royal Grade 2 1/2" 12 ga. 30" driven game gun. At 6lbs. she handles like a fine medium weight fly rod! One of the very last of the old "dip locks" before they went to the fully elliptical lock plate.
CraigThompson
09-11-2015, 10:12 AM
Hmmmm, have W&C Scott back action 10 gauge , W&C Scott sidelock 12 gauge , W&C Scott back action 20 gauge , Westley Richards 12 gauge boxer . And several Kraut guns of them my favored is a 16 gauge Kerner 30" full and full !
Mark Landskov
09-11-2015, 02:17 PM
I have a G.E. Lewis and Sons Magnum Wildfowler shipped to Nova Scotia in 1928. It is a 12 gauge proofed for 3" shells and 1-1/2 ounces of shot. The 32" barrels are both choked full.
wayne goerres
09-11-2015, 08:31 PM
WW Greener' Holland and Holland Westle
wayne goerres
09-11-2015, 08:35 PM
The computer cut me off. Westley Richards Charles Daily Linder Boss W&C Scott And some old German guns.
Rich Anderson
09-12-2015, 11:51 AM
H&H 20ga, J. Venebles & son 16ga hammer gun w/Jones underlever, Charles Boswell 20ga, Stephan Grant back action 12ga hammergun w/Jones underlever, Boss 20ga hammergun with thumb hole opener, W.R. Pape back action 28ga hammergun.
Michael Muth
09-12-2015, 11:55 AM
H&H 20ga, J. Venebles & son 16ga hammer gun w/Jones underlever, Charles Boswell 20ga, Stephan Grant back action 12ga hammergun w/Jones underlever, Boss 20ga hammergun with thumb hole opener, W.R. Pape back action 28ga hammergun.
I'm thinking of parting with my Parker 28gauge and picking up something from h&h, westley or Rigby in a more useable caliber. The 28 is neat but I just never use it, I get my 12s more often then not.
Rich Anderson
09-12-2015, 11:59 AM
I have two Parker 28's and both will be going with me for bird season. I wouldn't leave home with out them:)
Jerry Parise
09-12-2015, 12:13 PM
I have a C.G. Bonehill sidelock ejector gun that I love. Built in Birmingham circa 1931. It was probably built as a fowler. It is a 12 ga.,has original 2 3/4" chambers, 30" barrels choked Mod. and Full. Minimum barrel wall thickness .035 right tube .040 left tube. The gun weighs 7 lbs. 4 oz. and makes a great clays gun for SXS shoots as well as a cool pheasant gun with RST spreaders in the mod. tube.
Michael Muth
09-12-2015, 05:29 PM
I have two Parker 28's and both will be going with me for bird season. I wouldn't leave home with out them:)
I don't know, if I could find a good vierling, I think id discard my 28gauge Parker in a heartbeat, they are tough to come by though.
CraigThompson
09-12-2015, 05:40 PM
I don't know, if I could find a good vierling, I think id discard my 28gauge Parker in a heartbeat, they are tough to come by though.
I've got the drilling thing pretty well covered but a Vierling would be the pooh no doubt ! 16x16-6.5x57R and 22 Hornet or 22LR :whistle:
CraigThompson
09-12-2015, 05:46 PM
I'm thinking of parting with my Parker 28gauge and picking up something from h&h, westley or Rigby in a more useable caliber. The 28 is neat but I just never use it, I get my 12s more often then not.
Not meaning to be argumentative but I'll grab a 10 or 16 way quicker then a 12 . And in my ALWAYS BIASED OPINION unless it's a goosey or duckie or turkey I can kill it just as quickly or easily with the 28 as I can with a 12 :whistle:
Michael Muth
09-12-2015, 06:54 PM
I've got the drilling thing pretty well covered but a Vierling would be the pooh no doubt ! 16x16-6.5x57R and 22 Hornet or 22LR :whistle:
The more I think about it and read this thread, the more I realize, I need a vierling, really bad!
16x16x7x57x7x57 please.
John Davis
09-13-2015, 08:13 PM
J.P. Sauer and Son, 20 gauge hammer gun, Krupp fluid steel barrels. Have taken three limits of dove with her so far this season.
Mark Garrett
09-13-2015, 10:45 PM
Not one of the Big names . But a beautiful little English 16ga Hammergun just the same , Wm Sumner 5lbs 12oz . Used her last year for Dove and will again this year
Jay Gardner
09-13-2015, 10:56 PM
I have two 12b. HJ Hussey Sidelock Imperials circa 1907. Up there with the best English names in terms of overall quality, fit and finish. Both guns weight ~ 6-lb, 3-oz. and are perfectly balanced.
Gary Carmichael Sr
09-14-2015, 09:34 AM
28gauge William Atkins & son hammer gun with a jones under lever, Gary
Rick Losey
09-14-2015, 10:02 AM
28gauge William Atkins & son hammer gun with a jones under lever, Gary
now that sounds cool
Eric Eis
09-14-2015, 01:10 PM
Well it's not English, if you talk to the Scot's, but I have a Mckay Brown 16 ga and a 20 ga. The 20 ga I bought this summer was unfired, well that got fixed :) and the 16 I just love, IM and Mod, 27" barrels perfect......
Greg Baehman
09-14-2015, 01:29 PM
My one and only English gun is a 12-ga. back-action J. Blanch & Son sidelever hammergun, 30" damascus barrels, choked .010/.028, SG, SPL w/heel and toe plates. 6 lbs. 8 oz. Built in London c.1888.
Bill Zachow
09-17-2015, 05:17 PM
Only one--a Tolley 500 black powder express (No. 2), back action hammer gun with a Jones underlever. Steel barrels have perfect bores and the English walnut wood is likewise. Horn buttplate and prince of wales gripcap is also horn. If I remember correctly, the powder charge is engraved on the side of the action. Factory swivels and file cut dead flat rib. Two leaf rear sight and easily changeable front sight. Slides out like my Mauser .22 model 410 b.
charlie cleveland
09-17-2015, 06:10 PM
i too have only one english gun it is a FA LOOMIS NO. 35 8 GAUGE its a hammer gun with top break lever it has 4 inch chambers and 36 inch fine damascus barrels..DESTREY HOFFARD let me have this gun a few years ago....charlie
John Powers
09-17-2015, 11:24 PM
I have a 12 bore Purdey, 29" whitworth barrels, light mod and ic. Straight grip, rose and scroll engraved.
KCordell
09-18-2015, 06:50 PM
Here is one of my favorite German sxs in 14ga...it's a little slow to load but great on a hunt.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn128/code337/B13580B4-D22F-454F-BF9D-488B44172088-1959-0000017D11C8F6FA.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/user/code337/media/B13580B4-D22F-454F-BF9D-488B44172088-1959-0000017D11C8F6FA.jpg.html)
Patrick Lien
09-18-2015, 11:04 PM
Here is a interesting Hammer gun that I once owned. It had 2 sets of Bernard barrels. The shotgun barrels were very worn and showed no finish. The rifle barrels were unused and as new in the case. The safety was in the grip. It was a very well made gun made pre 1870 for some German baron from the research that I did.
Patrick
Patrick Lien
09-18-2015, 11:28 PM
This gun is a 12/16 two gauge two barrel set that was imported to Los Angeles in the 1930's. Very well made gun with side clips, Greener style crossbolt, and ejectors. The engraving while typical Germanic style is still very well done. The 12ga barrels are 32" and the 16ga are 30", both made by Krupp. There is no makers name on the gun but in my opinion they were very talented.
Patrick
Ed Blake
09-19-2015, 09:41 AM
WJ Jeffrey 12 gauge from 1937. It was made as a waterfowler with 1 1/4 oz proofs. Very nice handling gun.
KCordell
09-19-2015, 09:50 AM
Here is a fav of mine, 16 GA Imman Meffert Hubertus...1930s
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn128/code337/Hubertustrigger.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/user/code337/media/Hubertustrigger.jpg.html)
James J. Roberts
09-19-2015, 04:26 PM
I have a Emil Kerner & Shon Suhl engraved in 16 ga. Parker Trojan 16 ga. Browning A-5 sweet 16 and Baker 16 ga. with Damascus barrels. J.J.
todd allen
09-23-2015, 03:01 PM
H&H Royal. This was taken in the UP chasing grouse.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a19/luckydogx2/P1020223.jpg
John Dallas
09-23-2015, 04:04 PM
Jeez! and I get nervous taking M21 into the grouse woods. For an old diabetic with neuropathy, just one slip on a mossy log and.....
Rich Anderson
09-23-2015, 04:38 PM
I fell badly last year carrying a CHE 20:eek: One of 8 produced with 26 inch Damascus barrels. I got a couple of cuts and a big bruised forearm but the gun escaped any injury:)
Michael Muth
09-23-2015, 10:49 PM
H&H Royal. This was taken in the UP chasing grouse.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a19/luckydogx2/P1020223.jpg
I'll trade you a Parker 28gauge GH!
Michael Muth
09-23-2015, 10:58 PM
Not meaning to be argumentative but I'll grab a 10 or 16 way quicker then a 12 . And in my ALWAYS BIASED OPINION unless it's a goosey or duckie or turkey I can kill it just as quickly or easily with the 28 as I can with a 12 :whistle:
Haha I'm still working on killing them with a 12...so attempting to kill a turkey with a 28 is along way off.
Why grab a 10 over a 12? For what game and details please, sounds interesting.
Michael alexander
11-01-2015, 03:30 PM
Hello from England just joined I have a Westley Richards live pigeon gun with a s/s trigger and 2 sets of barrels full and full.1/4 and 3/4 .Michael Alexander..
John Campbell
11-01-2015, 03:55 PM
Michael:
A wonderful gun! I assume it's a Westley boxlock. If so, is it a hand detachable?
Michael alexander
11-01-2015, 04:21 PM
Yes it's a box lock non detached got 1a 2 on barrels and name in gold on rib spent most of its life in New Zealand
Eric Eis
11-01-2015, 04:31 PM
Michael:
A wonderful gun! I assume it's a Westley boxlock. If so, is it a hand detachable?
I forgot about the Westley 16 ga that I got from a member on this board...yes its a droplock with 30" barrels with perfect balance. Not sure how I forgot that one, guess the 16 ga Mckay Brown is clouding my judgement...
Michael Murphy
11-07-2015, 08:20 PM
I'm fortunate to have a Rigby hammer gun from 1888, a Lang sidelock, and two Stephen Grant sidelocks, one of which is a sidelever.
Just remembered, there is also a Greener in the mix.
John Campbell
11-08-2015, 07:42 AM
Mr.Murphy:
Have the Grants or Lang been actioned by the great E. C. Hodges? If so, they will have a triangular stamp surmounted by a crown on the action bars...
Michael Murphy
11-08-2015, 08:50 AM
John,
Don't know the answer off-hand. Unfortunately, the guns are in South Carolina and I'm in New Jersey. Otherwise I'd look the guns over and give you the answer. I won't be in SC until at least January, so the answer will have to wait.
Nevada Fitch
11-17-2015, 10:53 PM
My favorite shotgun which I have used extensively is a German J.P. Sauer 12ga, Royal which I had bored Skeet #1 on the right barrel and the left barrel is extra full.
Another gun I enjoy is a British Lancaster made in 1897. It's been sleeved, probably sometime in the 60's. This is a fine old gun, it's an assisted opening gun. It has a slim straight grip. The only problem I have with it is the left ejector doesn't work reliably. But I can still shoot it pretty fast.
Gary Carmichael Sr
11-18-2015, 09:22 AM
couple photos of the 28 ga w/ jones under lever
Bill Murphy
11-18-2015, 01:46 PM
A fine cased matched pair of William Evans full sidelock, stocked to the fences, game guns with Webley screw grip locking in high condition, my shooting guns. Another British game gun, a semi assisted opening 12 gauge Cogswell and Harrison that I have been shooting for many years. It is a sideplated boxlock with hard butt and 30" not too tightly choked barrels. Another is a 33" Greener Royal eight gauge, a bar in wood 34" Westley Richards eight gauge, a British made Alexander McComas 36" eight gauge, Prussian Lindners in 16, 12, 10, and fluid steel 34" 8 gauge, a nice Sauer hammer drilling in 16X16X11.15X65, which chambers 2 1/2" .410s nicely. Other hammerless Sauers in 10 and 12 gauge, and John Phillip Sousa's Diamond Grade Prussian Daly sextuple single barrel. Even with all these fun guns from England and Germany, I still have a Parker to enjoy.
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