Unusual Checkering

[Dean Romig]

Of course this is a AAHE so we can expect the unusual but I have never seen another example of this kind of panel checkering. Has anyone else seen this particular design?

This is a twenty gauge with 26" Whitworth barrels and is shown in the Ser. & I.D. book as a Grade 8 but the water table is stamped 7 & AAH, Ser. No. 175048



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[Austin W Hogan]

This is the same serial range as the Czar gun. There were some price changes at that time that make it difficult to determine if a gun is an A 1 or AA from the price in the order book.
Pretty nice incised carving; I would consider it a plus in any case.

Best, Austin

[Robert Beach]

Dean,

This particular treatment is an exact copy of the side panels on many Francotte boxlock shotguns imported by Von Lengerke & Detmold prior to 1910. It was known as a "scalloped and checkered sidelock-shaped side panel". Here is a photo of an image from an original salesman's display card of the period which I have annotated for current owners requesting information or indentification of models.

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL2138/10298763/18473910/385770963.jpg

Bob Beach
Griffin & Howe, Inc

[Robert Beach]

Dean,

Just on the chance that the customer who would copy a beautiful VL&D Francotte may have actually ordered it there, I checked the serial number against the G&H database. Unfortunately, it was not ordered at VL&D but it was sold as a consigned gun at Abercrombie & Fitch in 1935.

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL2138/10298763/18473910/385771548.jpg

The above is a partial photo of the inventory book entry. Reading left to right, it idicates that the gun was received on May 28, 1935, 20 gauge, 26 inch bbls, weight of 5 lbs, 14 oz, ejector gun, choked IC - Mod, D@H - 2 7/8, D@C - 1 7/16, LOP - 14 5/8, 1/2 pistol grip, model AAHE.

Bob Beach
Griffin & Howe, Inc

[Eric Eis]

Bob, you are better man then me if you can read that.....:shock:

[Dean Romig]

Bob, as always you continue to provide pertinent and accurate information on the guns you have records of. Thank you so much for your kind generosity of the information you have posted on Parker 175048. What a sweet gun! If it were mine I would surely be tempted to take it into the grouse coverts . . . at least once.

Dean

[Robert Beach]

Eric,

It gets easier after the first 5000 pages.

Bob Beach

[Bill Murphy]

Bob, we found the same to be true after about Tuesday of the week we copied the Parker records in 1998. By lunch time Tuesday, we understood enough of what we were reading to discuss it over a BLT. For the next 12 years, it's been about all I want to talk about.

[Harry Collins]

Robert,

Any relation to our beloved Captain Ned Beach?

Kindest, Harry

[Robert Beach]

Harry,

Not to my knowledge.

Bob

[Dean Romig]

Will the congregation please turn to page 339 in their hymnals (TPS)

[Chuck Bishop]

Boy Dean, you are really sharp! So what do you think? Just an artists rendition of what the panel should look like or possibly a different AAHE?

BTW, your post was great, TPS really is our bible and our religion is Parkerology.

[Dean Romig]

I can't take credit for the TPS reference... I was tipped off to it.

The picture in my initial post starting this thread was my own photograph of a photograph of the gun in the August 1976 issue of "The Gun Report". The Parker Story was published in 1998. Draw your own conclusions....

Here's another -




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[John Knobelsdorf II]

Looking at another picture of # 175048 on that same page of The Gun Report (August, 1976) - I see these numbers: 43112 and 43113 on the barrel flats.

Are these numbers assigned by the manufacturer, Whitworth?

And if so, I guess the number sequences were somewhere on the tubes themselves. Then stamped here again on the plate of the barrel flats when the two tubes were matched up and assembled together.

I see Whitworth referred to only once in TPS (at page 508).

Have not yet found a picture of the barrel flats on another example of Whitworth steel barrels.

[Dean Romig]

Yes, Whitworth sequentially serialized and stamped their barrel tube pairs. This has been discussed on the PGCA forum but it might be on the previous archived forum and it may have been included in a Parker Pages article which could be researched in the PP Digital Archive.





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[Phillip Carr]

To answer the first part of your original posting. I am posting a picture of a Francotte I own with very similar panel checkering. As always tap on picture for best resolution.