PH grade barrels

[Al Limone]

I've just acquired Ph with 26 inch uncut twist barrels on a number one frame made in 1892. Were 26 inch twist barrels common?

[Brian Dudley]

You neglect to mention the guage of the gun.

26" in 12g or even 16g are on the rarer side. Especially in 12g. In 20g, a 26" length would be relatively common.

I assume you have a 12g gun. In that case, the 26" length would be a special order length since common lengths in 12g would be 28 or 30.
Now, just because they were special order, does not mean they are VERY rare. A number of them were likely ordered. The Parker Story lists in the back a table of "short barreled guns" made. The authors define short barreled as being 24" or less. This is because they did not deem the number of 26" guns made to be low enough to include them in the list of 24" or shorter.

To summarize, from a collectibility standpoint, a factory 26" barreled gun would command a premium due to its relative rarity as being a special order, but that is only if it is collectible conditon. From a shooting standpoint, it may not carry a premium since many people do not like 26" barreled gun due to handling characteristics and such.

I personally shoot the heck out of a factory 26" barreled DHE 12g.

[Al Limone]

Thank you Brian. It is 12g. factory.

[Dean Romig]

185 such guns were made. Grade-1, hammerless, Twist (or some variation of Twist) barrels with a length of 26 inches.

[Gary Laudermilch]

I have a 12 ga., P, twist, with factory 26" barrels. Everybody that has shot it would love to get it from me. I've had lots of offers. I love it's handling qualities.

Forgot to mention that it is on a 1 frame and weighs 6-8. A delightful gun to shoot with light loads.

[Al Limone]

I didn't mention there is the number 2 stamped on the forend wood, iron, and lug.
The barrels are in Dale Edmonds hands right now. When they come back I'll post some photos. In the mean time I've joined and sent for a letter. Thanks for all the help

[Mills Morrison]

A PH 12 with original 26" barrels just sold on this forum and it was tempting.

[Bill Holcombe]

P grades are nice looking guns. I actually prefer them to Gs. For some reason the engraving on Gs just doesn't quite do it for me.

A nice P with some good looking twist barrels is a good looking gun.

[CraigThompson]

P grades are nice looking guns. I actually prefer them to Gs. For some reason the engraving on Gs just doesn't quite do it for me.

A nice P with some good looking twist barrels is a good looking gun.

To each his own !

But give me a GH or EH over a PH or NH anyday !

Now with that being said I know of a NH two barrel set that has me interested at the moment .

[Bill Holcombe]

Indeed, I just like the simplicity of the PH and VH over the GH. All of them pale to a DH though. I don't know why, I just like the simple designs better than the GH.

[Mills Morrison]

I am partial to the grade 2 as well although there is something to be said for the simplicity of the lower grades

[Al Limone]

I received my research letter this week. It was purchased by George F. Foote of Greenwich CT on February 5, 1894 with 30 inch twist steel barrels. In July 1894 it was returned to Parker by Hartley & Graham of NYC to fit a new pair of 26 inch Twist steel barrels bored cylinder and make as light as can . Great to know it's origin. Wishful thinking but it would be nice to locate those 30 inch barrels someday.
Thank you Chuck.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Al, If you do not mind what is the ser # of your gun, I bought a set of 30" twist barrels at a show years ago and you never know, I doubt they are for your gun but! we can check and see. I found a set some years ago that fit a gun that Bill Murphy had Gary

[Al Limone]

Gary, serial #74474
Al

[Al Limone]

I just received the barrels back from Dale Edmonds. Thought I'd share.

[Dean Romig]

Very nicely done!

How long did he have them Al?




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[Al Limone]

Dean, a little over a year, but as you can see it's well worth the wait.

[Daniel G Rainey]

I prefer the twist barrels over the steel. They look better to me and sometimes there is some very nice wood in the older PH guns. 26 inch barrels do not work for me, but that is me If i chased ruffed grouse in the coverts of New England two or three days a week 26 inch barrel might work.

[Bill Murphy]

Put your number in the "Lost and Found" section of this forum.

[Erick Dorr]

Al, Barrels are lovely. I have a PH 12 with 26" twist barrels which I didn't realize were so unusual. Mine was made in 1902.
Erick

[Al Limone]

Bill, the serial number is in the Lost and Found