Simmons Barrels

[Larry Frey]

There was some talk/interest in an earlier thread concerning the barrel work offered by Simmons, especially new barrels for our Parkers. I just spoke to the owner Jim Wright and he will be attending the Southern Friday afternoon and Saturday. He dose not have a table as this was a last minute decision to attend but will be their with some examples of their work which will include O frame barrels for Parkers. This will be a great opportunity for anyone interested in having this type of work done to get any questions they might have answered and see an example of their work.

[Bob Jurewicz]

Saw them in Tulsa. They say production of all barrels in all gauges will begin soon.
Bob Jurewicz

[Joe Kuhn]

For my O-frame Parker for replacment 16ga barrels :)

[Larry Frey]

Joe,
From what I've been told you could have anything from 16 gage to 410's made and fitted to your O frame gun in any length and choke configuration you would like. I am looking forward to meeting Mr. Wright at the Southern and seeing some examples of his work.

[Dean Romig]

Larry, please take photographs of his barrels for us and post them here. Also, ask him if he plans to attend Hausman's in June. There will be a lot of folks at Hausman's who are not able to attend the Southern.

[Joe Kuhn]

Joe,
From what I've been told you could have anything from 16 gage to 410's made and fitted to your O frame gun in any length and choke configuration you would like. I am looking forward to meeting Mr. Wright at the Southern and seeing some examples of his work.

I am going to be at the Southern so I hope to see Simmons there. Maybe a set of 28ga barrels is in my future. :) I would kill for a nice set of 16ga 30" tubes for my O frame money pit

[Bob Jurewicz]

As of the Tulsa show there was no barrel production just preparation. They displayed some parts in the white and an assortment of rib samples.
Bob Jurewicz

[David Dwyer]

I talked to Joe and he will have a finished barrel with him in Sanford. He intends to begin production May 1st. If I sell my BH 12 at Sanford my O frame money pit may get a 28ga set .
David

[David Lien]

Gee: Maybe someone can talk Simmons into 10 Ga. Barrels in both #2 and #3 frame.:) would make many old 2 frame VH Parkers more interesting. not to mention many old pitted tens in all grades. Pluss add to their work load.
David

[Dave Suponski]

Dave, Figures that you are the guy to think of that....:)

[Larry Frey]

Gee: Maybe someone can talk Simmons into 10 Ga. Barrels in both #2 and #3 frame.:) would make many old 2 frame VH Parkers more interesting. not to mention many old pitted tens in all grades. Pluss add to their work load.
David

David,
Their phone number is 913-782-3131. Why not give a call and ask what they can do. There is a good possibility they could accommodate you.

[Bill Murphy]

How about #2 and #3 frame hammer gun barrels? I hope they are under $400.00. Actually, I don't expect them to beat Tony's price since their price list shows $1900 for barrel sets that they have been building for years. Tooling up for a new item, the price would be anyone's guess. I would recommend that they tool up for items that are not available from Tony, like long big frame ten and twelve gauge barrels for hammer and hammerless guns. The fitting would be easier, and there would not be as much call for ejector barrels.

[Harry Collins]

I would like to have a set of 8 gauge barrels for my #4 frame and a set of .410 barrels for the #0 frame. Ain't gonna happen from my wallet...

Harry

[Larry Frey]

Bill,
If you and Linda are going to be at the Southern I will be sure to introduce you to Mr. Wright. One of the reasons he plans to be there is to get ideas from our members as to what we would like to see them make.

[Destry L. Hoffard]

Murphy,

They'd sell about three sets of that sort of thing, one to you (maybe), one to me, and one to Kaas then that's it. If they're going to make anything it should be smallbore stuff, that's where the sales will come from I'd guarantee. Guys wanting 30 inch fluid steel barrels for a 16 O Frame and that sorta shite.


Destry

[Bill Murphy]

I would like a set of 40" .410 barrels for my #6 frame hammerless PH. I think they should be chambered 2 1/2" because I am recoil sensitive. I don't care what they make as long as it is well made. I will buy them.

[Dean Romig]

I don't care what they make as long as it is well made. I will buy them.


Okay witnesses, we have it in writing. He can't back out now.

[Destry L. Hoffard]

I want to see the invoice.

DLH

[Bill Murphy]

I have actually written a check or two in my lifetime. Correction on those 40" .410 barrels. My little PH is not that long. I would still like some of those repro barrels.

[Dean Romig]

I can't wait to hear what Larry learns at the Southern. I can be a player.

[David Dwyer]

Good Morning from Sanford
I met with the Simmons folks and they have agreed to manufacture new HG barrels. To convince them to start this required I place an order for five O frame barrels of which I did,. If you want one of these please contact me ASAP.I only want one and the rest are available for my cost, $2,800 fitted to you gun. The first one,mine, should be started June 1st with one a month after that.
David

[David Dwyer]

Good Morning from Sanford
I talked to the Simmons people again and the first barrel, my 28ga 30",will be delivered no latter than Sept 1
David

[Dean Romig]

Presuming "HG" is hammergun??

[Bill Murphy]

Yup.

[Dean Romig]

Check-hook barrels?

[David Dwyer]

Yes . I do not know the rate of delivery but I believe it will be one a month.

[Dean Romig]

Did anyone see a set of his Parker hammarless barrels and photograph them so the pics can be posted here?

[Larry Frey]

Dean,
Mr. Wright and his head gun repair man arrived around 2:00 pm on Friday and I brought him over to the PGCA tent were he spent the next couple of hours discussing their companies capabilities as well as discovering the needs and wants of our members. They were then dragged of to speak at the Smith meeting and to dinner with their group at the Flame. I am sure between Friday and all day Saturday enough information was gathered and perhaps some pictures were taken and could be shared here for those that couldn't attend. I did note that they also had a bag with ejector parts they are making for Parkers. There ad will be in the next Parker Pages along with their capabilities and contact info.

[Dean Romig]

Thanks for the detailed report Larry.

I hope you and Deb had a good week of R&R and chasing the little white ball all over the place.

I'll call you.

[Joe Kuhn]

I talked to Jim Wright owner at Simmons at the Smith dinner and again on Saturday at the Southern SXS and he told me if I sent my 16ga O-frame money pit in now it would be most likely be returned starting in September. I am leaning toward a nice set of 30" 28ga tubes :)

While I did not see a full set of barrels he did show me a rib sample and the barrels mono block example. The rib I saw was was fully matted in the Parker style and was very nice, but he could duplicate the parker style with even the correct writing for that matter or put anything you deisred on the rib.

Sorry no pics I was just to dang busy shooting :D

Look for their ad in the next Parker pages I have a full copy if anybody wants a copy let me know and I'll see what I can do.

[John Truitt]

Was there any talk that they would be making barrels for frame sizes other than O frames?

[David Dwyer]

John
Yes. They intend to respond to demand moving to 1 then up.
David

[John Truitt]

Mr. Dwyer,
Thank you. I dont know how to do that fancy thank you and all.

You are right. I spoke to Mr. Wright at Simmons and they intend to tool up for several different frame sizes. They need a commentment of 5 per frame size (hammerless is obviously different than hammer) in order to proceed with manufacture in that size.

I am number two on a list for #1 frame hammer barrels.

Hopefully this will all work out in everyones best interest.

Thanks again,
John

[Robin Lewis]

Is it only frame size?

I would buy a #2 set but its would be for a very early lifter. Do you think its 5 per frame size or would it be 5 for #2 "check hook" and 5 for #2 "early style" and ... etc?

If its just the frame size, maybe I should get on the list for #2 frame; but I suspect they will run me off with an old lifter (ser # < 5000).

[John Truitt]

Mr. Lewis,

It appears to be frame size and action type. ie: #1 frame top lever, etc.
I am only assuming, and you know what happens when people assume.

Mr. Wright said it takes the cost of 5 sets for him to get tooled up and start producing.

[Bill Murphy]

I would like some help when they get to #7 frame hammer guns. I only need one or two sets. I might as well put the "For Sale" sign out front if Simmons follows through with this thing. It reminds me of the year I decided to spend a week at the loader reloading ounce and a quarter pigeon loads. At the end of the week, I realized I would have to sell the house to pay for that many pigeons. I'll never have to load those again.

[Dean Romig]

If its just the frame size, maybe I should get on the list for #2 frame; but I suspect they will run me off with an old lifter (ser # < 5000).


Robin, Robin.... Think Teague. For that price Teague is the only thing that makes any sense for that wonderful Parker. If it were mine I would not hesitate - but it isn't mine so all I can do is harass you publicly. :smiley7: