Shotgun rifle barrel liner

[Paul Harm]

I have a 1882 Remington SxS [ it's not a Parker, but close ] and picked up a 40cal 2 1/2" rifle liner. The gun was made for one. Anyways, after fire forming some 30/40 Craig into what I wanted I got it shooting pretty good. I believe it was made for the 40/50 shell, and Ross Sigfried wrote that 40% by weight of 4198 can be used in place of black powder. Well, 20.5 grains of 4198 and a 425gr slug groups real nice - good for deer hunting this year. That, and the other 10ga barrel will have buckshot. Brad Bachelder thought Parker also offered a shotgun to use the rifle liner, but I had never heard of it being offered. Anyone seen one ?

[Dean Romig]

Jim DiSpagno recently had one for sale and there is a Parker in the Buffalo Bill Museum in Cody, WY with rifled barrels as well.

[wayne goerres]

Paul 5744 is also a good powder in nitro for black loads.

[Jim DiSpagno]

The one I sold to a member here was a full length (30") in .25WCF (.25-20) and was thought to be made by The Auxiliary Rifle Barrel Co. Of Meridan Ct. Not much is known about the company but was near the Parker factory. It was a simple yet very well made item and was indexed to fit either barrel. There was a set of sights added that let one shoot either barrel accurately and when flipped down for shot she'll use, gave a bead type sighting. Maybe the new protector of this fine gun will post some pics. Jim

[Paul Harm]

Mine is also 30" long - boy does it make a shotgun heavy. Wayne, I'm not really into rifle reloading. I use a small punch to deprime, a 6" piece of cedar arrow shaft to prime, weigh each charge, and push the lead slug in by hand. Two hundred primers were given to me, and a pound of 4198. It damn near killed me having to shell out 90$ for a Lyman mould. Good thing I had a nice bottom drop lead pot from my muzzleloading days. Another friend gave me all the lead/tin mixture I can ever use. The same guy had the 30/40's to fire form, and he helped me slug the barrel. It's been a fun learning experience. Now I have to make some sights that work and look a little better - I have Semmers book, and he has a nice photo of what I need.

[Jim DiSpagno]

The 16ga Gr.2 hammergun I sold with the rifle barrel liner weighed less than 7 lbs. with the liner in and with .25-20 ammo still loaded and available, this was not a problem.

[Mike Franzen]

Here are a few pics of the 16 gauge I got from The Godfather, Jim DiSpagno. It is a 16 ga on an O frame with 30" bbls. It is well balanced and very easy to carry. The thing about the rifled insert is since there is only one that when it is placed inside the bbl it throws the gun out of balance. That's ok with me. If anyone wants other pics I will post once im back home

[wayne goerres]

That's a nifty sight. Paul that sounds like the same equipment I used the first time I loaded for 50/70. I didn't know that supplier was still in business. ( Ha ).

[Paul Harm]

Mike, nice photos. Could you post some of the front and back sights ?

[Mark Landskov]

The 40 x 2-1/2" (40-70 Sharps Straight) was commonly loaded with 330 grain bullets, patched and un-patched. My 1890 WRA Co. catalog shows a charge of 65 grains of black powder with either bullet. The original case may have been of folded-head construction and actually held 70 grains. The 40-50 Straight was 1-7/8".

http://www.buffaloarms.com/40_70_Sharps_Straight_Reloading_Brass_it-157192.aspx?CAT=3838

http://www.buffaloarms.com/40_70_Sharps_Straight_Reloading_Brass_it-157193.aspx?CAT=3838

[Mike Franzen]

Paul I'm on my way home. I'll post tomorrow

[Paul Harm]

Mine has a couple of problems. The liner sits down in the shotgun barrels a bit. The 40/70 cases I bought had too thin a rim, where as the 30/40 Craig had a thicker rim. The primers wouldn't go off with the thinner rims. The liner was bought from a guy online on the west coast, so who knows what it was made for. The only Lyman moulds in 40 cal. are for 400grs. I'm thinking of making a couple of hundred and then machining it down to make a 330gr bullet. The barrel checks out at .408 so we figured a .410 lead bullet would be correct. The problem I have is even though it's a straight walled case, there is a slight tapper so the case can be extracted after firing. Well, the cases I fire formed are .408 at 2.2" long, and the short ones that were saved after splitting the neck that are 1.8" long are .410. So who designed a 2 1/2" case [ stamped on the liner] that would take a undersized bullet ? I've shot both the short and long case shells, and they print the same on paper. The long ones look cool, but I only have 11 of them where as there's 20 of the short cases. Anyways, it's kind of fun messing around trying to make something work without knowing what was original used. The only info is what's stamped on the liner - 10ga 40 - 2 1/2.

[charlie cleveland]

paul it sounds like you might be able to use a 410 shotgun shell of 2 1/2 inch length..i may be off base but it might work if so you will have plenty of ammo cases....i truly hope you get a deer with this round...charlie

[Paul Harm]

A 410 won't fit in the chamber - would have been nice.