410 barrels CSMC

[Fred Lowe]

I have just put my $500 down for a set of the Repro .410 barrels. I was told that they were expecting them to be finished before the end of the year. I'm in no hurry. But will try to forget about it. Has anyone recieved the 16 ga. barrels yet?

[Joe Bernfeld]

Hey, Fred. I guess I thought that the 16 ga barrels had been available for some time, and were not made by CSMC. You might do a search; there have been some stories of fit problems.
Joe Bernfeld

[Fred Lowe]

I remember the original 16's were made by Kreighoff, then years later CSMC had 16 ga barrels available. When I spoke with Rich at CSMC today, He told me that the 16's were nearly completed, but they had just recieved orders for 4 more sets. And that he was looking at 16 ga barrels as we spoke. He further said that they anticipated that the 410 barrels would be out before the end of the year, and were the last of the Repro barrels to be produced. Then come the barrels for the original Parkers. Hopefully that means I've got sometime before deciding on a 28ga barrel for the VHE.

I'd not heard of poor fitting barrels, but I don't get out much. If the 410's come to me and are poor fitting or less than expected quality, I would likely return them.

It seems to me that for the most part the Buyers have been please with RBL's and CSMC in general. With the exception of wanting the guns alot faster than they arrived.

[Joe Bernfeld]

Amen to slower than predicted delivery! Those barrels were supposed to be available last September! I didn't realize they were offering 16 ga CSMC-made barrels.

[Dave Fuller]

Don't expect them to fit when they show up at your door and good luck sending them back if you alter them.

[Greg Baehman]

Dave, would you expect CSMC to accept barrels back if you altered them?

[Fred Lowe]

Don't expect them to fit when they show up at your door and good luck sending them back if you alter them.


I would like to hear more about this. Have you personally had issues?

[Dean Romig]

Fred, best advice is to send your gun to CSMC to have the barrels expertly fitted. If, when the gun arrives back at your door, you find something not to your liking you can deal directly with the fitter - CSMC. This way there will be no third party that CSMC can claim damaged the barrels (not that a third party might but just to eliminate the possibility that CSMC could take such a position) and CSMC will be solely responsible.

[Fred Lowe]

Makes plenty of sense to me. I would only want my barrels to be expertly fitted.

Thank you Dean.

[Dave Fuller]

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[Fred Lowe]

I just spoke with CSMC, they will not fit the barrels. They refered me to Doug Turnbull. I was told the barrels could not be returned.

[Dean Romig]

No surprise there....

[Fred Lowe]

No surprise there....

Which part Dean? That they won't fit the barrels? That I was referred to Turnbull? Or that there is no return on barrels

[Eric Eis]

Which part Dean? That they won't fit the barrels? That I was referred to Turnbull? Or that there is no return on barrels

All of the above......:eek:

[Dean Romig]

It doesn't surprise me that CSMC won't fit them and that CSMC won't accept return of these barrels either.

I wonder if CSMC will allow returns if someone simply doesn't like them even before any attempt is made to fit them???..... probably not.

[Fred Lowe]

I wonder if CSMC will allow returns if someone simply doesn't like them even before any attempt is made to fit them???..... probably not.

That is a correct assumption.

I would really love to have these barrels to add to a set.

I have no experience with anyone that purchased any of the aftermarket barrels that CSMC has sold for Repro's. The temptation is great, but I don't want to drop $2500 on barrels that aren't all that one would want them to be.

Are there lots of happy customers? Anyone?

[Dean Romig]

Although there is no sworn allegiance to CSMC they are one of our advertisers and rather than getting too deeply involved in something that would be difficult to back out of here I would suggest looking into archived discussions about CSMC's Parker barrels over on the doublegunshop.com BBS. There is no shortage of opinions and experienced recommendations regarding these barrels over on that website. JMHO, Dean

[Chuck Heald]

If past performance is a gauge, I believe CSM would likely accept a return of barrels if they did not meet expectations of the customer upon inspection. No fitting/alterations of course.

[Bill Murphy]

It would tickle me if they brought a few sets to the Southern or to the Northeast Shoot for us to see and try on our guns. If, by any chance, a set almost clicked on, I would pay right there.

[Dean Romig]

Yup, me too - but I'm betting that doesn't happen. All orders must be prepaid so I don't think they'll have any available for examination at any venue except right there in New Britain at the shop.

[Chuck Heald]

I spoke to Denny at Turnbull's store today. He said they've been getting inquiries on fitting these. He said they estimate $350-450 to fit them which includes any forend functional and fitting issues.

[Bill Murphy]

Dean, it is still a product they hope to sell, hopefully at a profit for the company. As such, someone in the organization may take the initiative to take a set on the road, or not. They somehow made the hard business decision to take an A-10 on the road in the hopes of getting some interest.

[Dean Romig]

Well, they haven't much time or many venues to display the barrels at considering the announcement has been made that we have until year's end to pony up.
The A-10 was a much stronger commitment, in my opinion, than some (potentially controversial) barrel sets and bringing one around for display was most probably a strong point of the marketing strategy for the A-10.
Are all of the A-10's custom made on a pre-payment basis (as are the .410 barrels) or are a percentage of them being built on speculation?

[Bill Murphy]

Probably the same situation for the A-10 as it was for the RBL. "Custom Order Only" but a bunch left over at the end of production to be sold.

[Dave Suponski]

There was a whole pile of RBL's in their rack at Greenwich this past Janurary.

[Dean Romig]

Right, and that's how they should display the barrels too - a few of each gauge and length.