What Grade is this gun?

[John Cinkoske]

As usual, thanks for any information you can provide.
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[John Cinkoske]

A few more... This is not my gun...

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/MacNaughton360/LIFTER%2016/BREECH.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/MacNaughton360/media/LIFTER%2016/BREECH.jpg.html)

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http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/MacNaughton360/LIFTER%2016/LSIDE.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/MacNaughton360/media/LIFTER%2016/LSIDE.jpg.html)

[Rick Losey]

nice wood

i am having a little trouble with reading the serial number,

[charlie cleveland]

nice gun and that wood is better than most....is this a 20 ga...charlie

[Jim DiSpagno]

Grade 2 laminated steel barrels pistol grip 16 with 28" barrels under lifter with lightening cuts made 1880. Nice gun

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

I find it interesting that it has a SKBP, the bolsters say a grade 2 maybe special order with a SKBP, Gary

[Virginia Hessler]

Is it my eyes or do the wedges in the end of the barrels appear to be missing ?
Indicating possibly shortend.
Tom

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Tom, I believe the keels are there just the light is making it look that way. Gary

[John Cinkoske]

Unfortunately, my notes say 26-1/8" barrels.
Gary, what is SKBP please?
It is 16 ga. laminated steel barrels.
Sorry the photo of the rib markings didn't turn out well.
It looked like I had it when I took it.
Dang trifocals.

[Robin Lewis]

SKBP - Skeleton butt plate

[Brian Dudley]

Not the first grade 2 with an SSBP that I have seen. It is the second. An oddity for sure.

[Bill Murphy]

I own a Grade 2 with skeleton butt and know of others. A PGCA letter may give some clues about this great gun.

[Dean Romig]

John, yours is another one of those P Laminated Steel barreled Grade 2 guns.

Very unusual that it has a skeleton steel butt plate, but as others have said, others are known to exist.

Here's a Grade-0 No. 10165 that I've shown before, with some very unusual features including a SSBP. Note, there is no checkering at all... even on the butt within the SSBP.





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[Brian Dudley]

But they sculpted the bolsters... Interesting.

[Dean Romig]

That's just one of the unusual features....

[Brian Dudley]

It looks like it has like 4" of drop.

[Dean Romig]

Austin's had easily the same amount of drop but it was even more pronounced, being a straight grip lifter. His was also a 20 ga. on the same diminutive frame size... 15/16" between strikers.