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Michael Decker
05-11-2015, 07:56 PM
Hello PGCA,

I am a new member, so I suppose this is a hello post as well. :bigbye:

I picked up a Parker 16GA Trojan as a part of a small collection that had a few other items I really wanted.

I don't have much knowledge regarding parkers, so, here I am.

In the interest of full disclosure, I will probably be posting this gun for sale in the near future, as I don't have much need for it and it seems a bit short to me (I'm 6'5" with some long monkey arms :rotf:)

I have already checked and it appears there is no information available on which to base a research letter. I do know that it was produced in 1919.

To me, it looks un-restored and un-touched, but I am admittedly no expert in these matters.

I would really appreciate anybody's input on this gun's condition and what it may be worth.

All of the numbers match on the gun.

The barrels are 28".

Also, if anyone is or knows of a Parker or competent doubles gunsmiths out here in Arizona, I would like to pay someone to give the gun a thorough once-over to make sure it is all up to snuff before I put it up for sale.

Without further ado, here are some pictures of the aforementioned gun (You can click after each of these pictures to view a much higher resolution, full screen image):

http://theorem44.com/mdecker/parker/IMG_1852_thumb.jpg
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http://theorem44.com/mdecker/parker/IMG_1855_thumb.jpg
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http://theorem44.com/mdecker/parker/IMG_3388_thumb.jpg
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http://theorem44.com/mdecker/parker/IMG_3389_thumb.jpg
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There are a few knicks on the stock:
http://theorem44.com/mdecker/parker/IMG_3390_thumb.jpg
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http://theorem44.com/mdecker/parker/IMG_3391_thumb.jpg
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And on minor ding in the barrel that I can't see from the inside:
http://theorem44.com/mdecker/parker/IMG_3392_thumb.jpg
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A bit of rust on the top of the barrels against the rib:
http://theorem44.com/mdecker/parker/IMG_3394_thumb.jpg
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http://theorem44.com/mdecker/parker/IMG_3395_thumb.jpg
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http://theorem44.com/mdecker/parker/IMG_3396_thumb.jpg
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http://theorem44.com/mdecker/parker/IMG_3399_thumb.jpg
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http://theorem44.com/mdecker/parker/IMG_3401_thumb.jpg
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http://theorem44.com/mdecker/parker/IMG_1854_thumb.jpg
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Thank you for looking and for your time.

Brian Dudley
05-11-2015, 08:06 PM
Thanks for posting good photos of the gun.

It has its issues here and there, but overall it is in pretty good shape with a good amount of original condition remaining.

Bill Murphy
05-11-2015, 08:20 PM
You don't really have to take it anywhere to have it inspected. It is in proper using condition and will make someone very happy, as is.

greg conomos
05-11-2015, 09:02 PM
Nice gun but I would say those 'nicks' are borderline 'gouges'.

wayne goerres
05-11-2015, 09:13 PM
You should provide the chokes and barrel lengths. All in all its a fairly nice gun. I would say with the few issues that I see its Probable about $1500.00 Those chuncks gone out of the stock really detract from the value JMHO.

Michael Decker
05-11-2015, 09:39 PM
Thanks to all who have posted.

Wayne and Fishtail, thank you, I don't disagree at all regarding the gouges, wish I at least had the story that went with them :)

I will measure the barrels and see what I can do to measure the chokes later tonight (I will have to do some reading to learn how to identify the chokes).

Brian Dudley
05-11-2015, 10:10 PM
Chokes can only be properly measured with a bore gauge so that the constriction from bore to muzzle can be read. But, given the era that your Trojan was built, the bore diameter should not be too far off from modern nominal dimensions. So a drop in guage will get you in the ballpark.

Rick Losey
05-11-2015, 10:28 PM
Chokes can only be properly measured with a bite gauge so that the construction from bird to muzzle can be read. But, given the era that your Trojan was built, the bite diameter should not be too far off from modern nominal dimensions. So a drop in guage will get you in th ballpark.

Brian

You type as bad as I do :)

edgarspencer
05-12-2015, 08:24 AM
Chokes can only be properly measured with a bore gauge so that the construction from bore to muzzle can be read. But, given the era that your Trojan was built, the bore diameter should not be too far off from modern nominal dimensions. So a drop in guage will get you in the ballpark.

Ya missed one, Brian. I think you must have really pissed Siri off.

Brian Dudley
05-12-2015, 08:30 AM
Jeeze... You guys are hard to please.

Daryl Corona
05-12-2015, 08:41 AM
Believe me Brian, when we are all gathered around in our walkers and wheelchairs at your wake, toasting you with some fine cognac and a good cohiba, the only thing you will be remembered for is your fine gunsmithing not for you bad speln.:)

Dean Romig
05-12-2015, 09:41 AM
Omigosh... I'm sorry - I didn't know Brian had a bad spleen.

edgarspencer
05-12-2015, 10:05 AM
Omigosh... I'm sorry - I didn't know Brian had a bad spleen.

He doesn't. He splained himself fine. I'm wondering who Daryl was cohabitating with.

Michael Decker
05-12-2015, 10:12 AM
Chokes can only be properly measured with a bore gauge so that the constriction from bore to muzzle can be read. But, given the era that your Trojan was built, the bore diameter should not be too far off from modern nominal dimensions. So a drop in guage will get you in the ballpark.

Thank you Brian. I am going to stop by my local gunsmith later this week and see if he has one of those fancy micrometer gauges, but if not I will pickup a drop in and see what it has to say.

Michael Decker
05-12-2015, 12:58 PM
Updated original post with the barrel length of 28".