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David Dwyer
04-29-2015, 03:13 PM
I want to take a 1 1/2 frame 12 ga VHE barrel and sleeve it to 20a. Briley can only go down one gage. Any idea's?
David

Carl Brandt
04-29-2015, 03:19 PM
Talk to Dave F. He may have some ideas about doing this.

Brian Dudley
04-29-2015, 03:23 PM
Not that it cannot be done. It would just make a very heavy set of barrels.

David Dwyer
04-29-2015, 03:27 PM
Brian
Can not the barrels be profiled down to the same weight and balance point as the existing 12ga?
David

Bill Zachow
04-29-2015, 05:19 PM
Why? You could probably buy 20 VHE for the same dollars as the original VHE and the cost of the monoblocking or sleeving, if you will.

Brian Dudley
04-29-2015, 08:53 PM
Dave, I would have a hard time explaining it. Would be better to draw it.

Basically, the amount a 12g chamber would need to be framed out to accept the new tube might be too much in order properly profile the finished sleeve job.

Carvel Whaley
04-29-2015, 09:00 PM
David, It seems it depends who you talk to as to what they can or will do. I talked to Gary Singer, he said only down one gauge, I talked to a guy named Tom and he said they could do 12 to 20. Their web sight says they can do 12 to 20. Go figure, your guess is as good as mine. Carvel

William Davis
04-29-2015, 09:09 PM
I hear 2nd hand, Briley prefers to sleeve 16 to 20 on a 1 frame. Just guessing, the frame size is probably more important than the donor barrel gauge

William

wayne goerres
04-29-2015, 09:11 PM
If you follow the profile of the original barrels (12ga) your barrels will probable weigh seven to eight pounds easy. If you change the profile you will have to rework the fore arm wood and possible the fore arm metal. If you line the barrels you will have the same weight problems. Either way it will be a very expensive proposition.

charlie cleveland
04-29-2015, 10:18 PM
why not just shoot gauge mates..they work fine...then you can convert back to a 12 ga in secounds...i have some for 10 ga reduced to 12 ga...they work fine...charlie

David Dwyer
04-30-2015, 07:35 AM
OK,thanks for all the good advise. I am going to put this project on hold and see if I can find a nice DHE 20 with 30 inch barrels. I have a 1 1/2 frame VHE 12 ga barrel , dented ,that I paid $1,100 if anyone wants it?
David

Dave Noreen
04-30-2015, 10:43 AM
Parker Bros. could, and would, make a set of 20-gauge barrels to fit a 2-frame 12-gauge gun. This 1889 vintage gun weighs a bit over nine pounds with the original 12-gauge barrels in place --

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Parker/Big2001.jpg

and 8 pounds 4.5 ounces with the 32-inch long, 3-inch chambered, 20-gauge Vulcan Steel barrels made some time between 1918 and 1926 in place.

John Truitt
04-30-2015, 11:00 AM
that is a very nice gun.

could you post a pic of it after you had it restocked. PLEASE.

David Dwyer
05-01-2015, 10:24 AM
Have not quite given up! Would a repro 20a 1 1/2 frame barrel work and did they make that?
David

Dave Noreen
05-01-2015, 10:37 AM
that is a very nice gun.

could you post a pic of it after you had it restocked. PLEASE.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Parker/5621306_zpscaad5fec.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Parker/5621305_zps20acc38a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Parker/56213NewStockLeft_zps9443db09.jpg

John Truitt
05-01-2015, 10:58 AM
Thank you Mr N.

That is one fine gun and a very tasteful restock. Thank you again.