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Craig Cogar
04-23-2015, 05:51 AM
I see guns listed with in/out skeet chokes. old sxs that is.
someone please explain this setup to me- I am thinking the right barrel is maybe a bit tighter since in skeet you should the out going bird first, then shoot left barrel at incoming bird- on doubles-
I don't know- I have yet to have it explained that made sense- help me out guys
thanks cc:corn:

Pete Lester
04-23-2015, 06:52 AM
You have it correct, the right barrel is normally fired first, on a field gun it often has a more open choke. Since the first bird on the skeet field is a going away bird from station 1 a skeet gun will usually have more choke in the right barrel (skeet out) and less choke in the left barrel (skeet In).

Dean Romig
04-23-2015, 09:13 AM
That is generally what I understood until Dr. Drew Hause posted a lot of information with several different gun manufacturers chokes.... seems not all manufacturers adhered to that philosophy of the right barrel/forward trigger being the Skeet Out or Skeet 1 choke and the left being left barrel/rear trigger being the Skeet In or Skeet 1 choke. And then I suppose on guns with a single selective trigger it wouldn't make one whit of difference which barrel was choked which way. But Pete, to his credit, used the words "normally" and "usually", knowing that not all SXS skeet guns were choked that way.

Further, on a SXS earlier than 1926 there was no such thing as "Skeet" chokes anyway, the first designated skeet guns weren't manufactured until sometime later in the twenties.

Be very careful when buying a gun advertised with "skeet chokes" as this could easily be a gun with cut barrels or opened chokes.

Pete Lester
04-23-2015, 03:50 PM
That is generally what I understood until Dr. Drew Hause posted a lot of information with several different gun manufacturers chokes.... seems not all manufacturers adhered to that philosophy of the right barrel/forward trigger being the Skeet Out or Skeet 1 choke and the left being left barrel/rear trigger being the Skeet In or Skeet 1 choke. And then I suppose on guns with a single selective trigger it wouldn't make one whit of difference which barrel was choked which way. But Pete, to his credit, used the words "normally" and "usually", knowing that not all SXS skeet guns were choked that way.

Further, on a SXS earlier than 1926 there was no such thing as "Skeet" chokes anyway, the first designated skeet guns weren't manufactured until sometime later in the twenties.

Be very careful when buying a gun advertised with "skeet chokes" as this could easily be a gun with cut barrels or opened chokes.

Normally and usually apply to a lot of aspects of the Parker Gun because as many of us have come to learn, never say never about what the P Bros did with a gun.

scott kittredge
04-23-2015, 05:31 PM
Bill Janelle's Iver Johnson 20 ga. skeeter had reverse chokes

Drew Hause
04-23-2015, 05:44 PM
Timely thread
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=401138#Post401138

Craig Cogar
04-24-2015, 06:06 AM
thanks for the info guys

Larry Stalnaker
04-24-2015, 10:29 AM
Hi Guys,

A very good question. And even better answers. Yes, usually and normally are terms that don't carry a great deal of weight. What with special orders, salesman's "special" guns, big shots within the company wanting things a little different, new ideas being tried, and on and on............. you get the picture; what might be normal for say a G grade Parker may cover 99.9% of the G grades, but, there may very well be one out there with things that shouldn't appear on a G grade.

And not just Parkers, every manufacturer was guilty of building guns that "don't happen" or were "never made". And with the popularity of skeet shooting at the height of the Parker, I can see a person ordering a gun with the skeet chokes reversed from the norm. I don't always shoot the targets in the what would be considered the normal sequence. Perhaps there were shooters who shot reverse of the accepted norm as their style.

Just my 2 cents worth and another idea.

PopPop

Dean Romig
04-24-2015, 11:02 AM
Thanks Drew, that's the post you made that I referred to earlier in this thread.