10ga 36" bbl

[Rob Womack]

I aquired a parker 10 hammer gun with 36" bbl. It is a G grade in about 30% condition. It is damascus and a size 6 frame. The sn.is 131021. I was wondering
about the rarity of the 36" bbl. I'm not rely a Parker guy but have been dealing and collecting of 40 years and never seen one. Also interested in what it might be worth.

[greg conomos]

This is the wrong section of the forum to post his. But it's a 'wow' gun. Pics?

[Rob Womack]

Thanks, I'm new to this sort of thing my first post. Can imove to the right place . I dont have any pics and would not know how to get them on the post

[Rob Womack]

Im taking the gun to the Tulsa gun show this weekend

[Fred Verry]

The Parker Story shows 23 total 10 gauge Grade 2 Parker hammer guns with 36" barrels. The value is impossible to determine without examining the gun in person, but if you post some pictures some members may be able to give you more help in that direction. The research letter serial number look up indicates records exist for your gun. They are probably from the order books. You would need to request a research letter to access this information. HTH

[Mills Morrison]

If this is the one that was on Gunbroker last year, it is probably worth about what you paid for it.

[Bill Murphy]

I've seen 36" ten gauges, but I've never seen a #6 frame hammer gun.

[Rob Womack]

This gun has been in the back of a pawn shop since the 1960's the previous owner recently passed away. I don't know what it weights It bottems out a ten lb postal scale my guessis 15 to17 lbs
Im trying to put some pics on here but i haven't figured it out yet

[Thomas L. Benson Sr.]

Rob: Where are you going to be located at in Tulsa. Thomas

[Rob Womack]

we willbe on the upper level row 27 tables 1-3 10-12 the end cap

[Rob Womack]

This should be pictures of the 36" 10Ga gun.

[Eric Estes]

Wow, what a gun! I am no expert, but that looks like a grade 3 to me. Rob, are you sure on the serial number? I would have thought it to be earlier.

[Mills Morrison]

I agree with Eric. If PGCA has records for it, you would be well served joining PGCA and ordering a research letter on it. That is the kind of gun that could have been ordered by someone famous

[Erick Dorr]

Wowza Rob.
I would really like to see what the barrel thickness of a 6 frame 10 ga looks like from the breech and/or the muzzle. It must be extremely thick if it weighs 15+ lbs.
I also suggest you double check your serial number, grade stamping if there is one.
Sorry I am no help when it comes to valuing this configuration.
Best,
Erick

[Craig Larter]

OMG what a cool gun!!!

[MattHaney]

Stunning. Certainly a Grade 3 (D Grade). Thanks for sharing! ----Matt

[Jim DiSpagno]

Rare gun with only a handful found in the serialization book by grade and barrel length. Most found in the 41-50K range. Book doesn't give frame size but very rare to da the least. A good condition report and better pics of areas of interest would give a better chance for estimates.

[greg conomos]

The barrel fit looks funny, like someone smashed the end with a hammer.

[Eric Estes]

Looks like the barrels may have been dropped on the breech end. Hopefully a good barrel guy can fix that. Still, an awesome gun.

[Rick Losey]

Looks like the barrels may have been dropped on the breech end.

36" 10 gauge 6 frame barrels-

try holding them up for long :rotf:

[greg conomos]

maybe someone used 'em to drive fence posts into the ground

I'm kinda with Mr. Murphy on the #6 frame....I wonder if it isn't really a 5 or 7?

[Craig Larter]

That dent in the barrel face would concern me.

[Rob Womack]

Sorry it took so long to answer it along way from Fl to Tulsa. The sn is correct. The breech end corner is damaged where it has been dropped. It still locks upwell and I feel that it is repairable. I am a gunsmith but why? it part of its History.The wall thickness at the muzzle is about an 1/8th of an inch. It is a grade 3. I found a bigger scale the gun weighs 15 1/4 lbs.

[Rob Womack]

There is a 6 stamped on the bbl lug

[charlie cleveland]

bob that 10 ga is the heaviet one i ve ever heard of in ten gauge..there s not many 8 ga that weigh 15 1/2 lb...but sure is a interesting old gun..the opening lever on your gun is called a fish tail by the way...charlie

[Craig Larter]

I ordered a letter (thanks Chuck and the new on line system!!!!) and it is indeed a 6 frame 10 ga. weighting 15 1/4 lbs. with 36" bbls. It is on the way to me. I was hoping it was an 8 but at least now I don't need to invest in loading 8 ga. equipment. A good friend inspected the gun and it appears to be honest in all respects with a few warts. Maybe I can shoot a few ducks with the old beast and write and article for PP or DGJ.

[Rick Losey]

can't wait to see that on the clays course :rotf:

[Mills Morrison]

Good job Craig!

[Dave Suponski]

Craig, This is you first hammergun huh? Oh Boy.....Here we go!

[Craig Larter]

Dave: Yes it is my first Parker hammer gun. I have the hammerless covered pretty well so time to add a hammer gun. I started big!

[greg conomos]

If you really want to feel a new sort of pain, open the gun, plant your thumb over the firing pin, cock the hammer, and pull the trigger.

[Rick Losey]

like i always say when some one holds something out and says "smell this - it stinks"


no thanks- I'll take your word for it

[CraigThompson]

Very nice and congrats !

I like that gun quite a bit .

[Tom Wyraz]

Yeah, you started BIG alright..... don't come any bigger. Like I said, eat your Wheaties and you may consider a hernia belt.:rotf:

[charlie cleveland]

could you tell us what weight these barrels are..it will be marked on the barrel flat if you do not know...for a gun this heavy i m guessing they weigh around 10 lbs..also bet this may be a 3 1/2 inch chambered gun...just wondering hope you can tell us....charlie

[Craig Larter]

The barrels are marked 10 6 the letter states 2 7/8" chambers. Has anyone ever seen a heavier set of barrels. It's about the coolest waterfowl gun I have never seem. It's a time capsule from the golden age of duck hunting. Bringing it to the southern.

[Mills Morrison]

I almost got a big 36" 10 gauge last year, but passed on it. It was a project gun and I do not need more projects.

Look forward to seeing that gun, Craig

[Craig Larter]

Min wall .085 . .042 chokes in both barrels

[Brian Dudley]

The barrels are marked 10 6 the letter states 2 7/8" chambers. Has anyone ever seen a heavier set of barrels. It's about the coolest waterfowl gun I have never seem. It's a time capsule from the golden age of duck hunting. Bringing it to the southern.


I've seen 12-1/2 pound barrels. But they were 8g.

Can't wait to see if this weekend.

[Jeff Kuss]

My 38" 8 ga. on a 7 frame is stamped 10 9. My 6 frame 10 with 34" barrels are stamped 6 13.

[Craig Larter]

Jeff: Wow those are some big barrels. It would be fun to get a bunch of these old big guns together at the same time. Shot mine today at Drakes, what a hoot! Thanks Craig

[Rick Losey]

i get a kick out of the fact that the BARRELS out weigh my whole 32 inch 10's

[charlie cleveland]

i wonder what the heavist set of parker barrels was..we have a 10 ga at 10 lbs 4 ounce and a 8 ga at 10 lbs 9 ounce.....can any of you boys beat these weights i cannot...charlie

[greg conomos]

Be sure to clarify if you are using stamped weights or actual...

[Lloyd Bernstein]

Saw it at the southern today.
Very very impressive
Does a great job impersonating an 8 ga

[Mike Franzen]

I agree. It looks like an 8 gauge. In fact it looked bigger than the 8 it was next to.

[Craig Larter]

I posted a few pictures of the gun and the letter in Albums
http://parkerguns.org/forums/album.php?albumid=611

[Rick Losey]

nice - thanks for the pictures

[Mills Morrison]

Craig's gun was at the Southern and it was impressive!

[charlie cleveland]

i just am amazed bythe weight of those 10 ga barrels...woulda like to have met the man that ordered this gun this way... charlie

[Jeff Davison]

Craig is a fortunate man. I had a place picked out for it in the safe.

[Alan B. Webber]

I have a 36" 10 ga d grade and it is a goose and duck terminator. A lot of fun to shoot. I use pyrodex in full length brass shells. It's a great gun and a real crowd pleaser.

[Craig Larter]

Alan: That means we know where two of the three made are. What is the weight and frame size of your gun. Can you post pictures?? Thanks Craig

[Alan B. Webber]

Craig,
For some reason I can't get the pics to copy/ paste.
Anyway the hammerless D grade I bought from Cabelas about 10 years ago and sent it to Turnbull for restoration. It is a #6 frame 10, 36" barrels and weighs 14 lbs. it was built in 1901 and sent to a guy in South Dakota. His name is still on the oval plate.
The other one is a D grade hammer 10, #6 frame,34" barrels I bought about 8 years ago. It went to Turnbull also and was such a wreck it was almost unrestorable. It weighs 13.5 lbs and was built in 1901 also.
Both are in as new condition now and I feel good that they are back doing what they were built for: long range duck and goose shooting. I have a couple hundred full length brass cases I load with pyrodex and about 1 1/4 oz of shot( bismuth for hunting). I also shoot them at ZZ trap now and then. They are also a lot of fun for driven pheasants.
Regards, Alan

[CraigThompson]

Craig,
For some reason I can't get the pics to copy/ paste.
Anyway the hammerless D grade I bought from Cabelas about 10 years ago and sent it to Turnbull for restoration. It is a #6 frame 10, 36" barrels and weighs 14 lbs. it was built in 1901 and sent to a guy in South Dakota. His name is still on the oval plate.
The other one is a D grade hammer 10, #6 frame,34" barrels I bought about 8 years ago. It went to Turnbull also and was such a wreck it was almost unrestorable. It weighs 13.5 lbs and was built in 1901 also.
Both are in as new condition now and I feel good that they are back doing what they were built for: long range duck and goose shooting. I have a couple hundred full length brass cases I load with pyrodex and about 1 1/4 oz of shot( bismuth for hunting). I also shoot them at ZZ trap now and then. They are also a lot of fun for driven pheasants.
Regards, Alan

I hope you can figure some way to post pics of those two as I would certainly love to see them :whistle:

[Rick Losey]

Alan- if you emailed the pictures to one of us - we could post them for you

[Alan B. Webber]

Awebber395@gmail.com
I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I posted a 20 ga. years ago with no problem.
Someone give me a refresher.

[CraigThompson]

Awebber395@gmail.com
I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I posted a 20 ga. years ago with no problem.
Someone give me a refresher.

FWIW , I enter any pics I wanna put on a forum on photobucket.com and then post them on whatever forum .

[Alan B. Webber]

Thanks!

[greg conomos]

Around 1994 I was in a small Chicago area gun store and they had two hammer guns hanging on the wall. Both were 'rough'. One was a small frame Parker and the other was a very large Parker. I'm sure it was a 6 frame in hindsight. Because these were 'display' items I didn't ask more about them but I wish now I had.

[Rick Losey]

Alan

i had put some instructions on posting pics in post # 11 of this thread

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17028&highlight=photobucket&page=2

you can create an album on the PGCA site with straight upload from your computer

[Rick Losey]

Alan's pics

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=588&pictureid=7409

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=588&pictureid=7410

[CraigThompson]

The hammer gun is very nice and I like it ,but I really really like the hammerless !

[Craig Larter]

Very nice thanks for the pictures. Craig

[Alan B. Webber]

The hammer gun is very nice and I like it ,but I really really like the hammerless !

Actually the hammerless is the better shooter for me.
I need to concoct a nice low pressure load for the full length brass shells because I'm a bit tired cleaning the BP.

[CraigThompson]

Actually the hammerless is the better shooter for me.
I need to concoct a nice low pressure load for the full length brass shells because I'm a bit tired cleaning the BP.

Get you 100 new Remington hulls cut them down , use the SP-10 wad with 1 1/4 ounce of shot a 16 gauge 1/4" wad in the bottom of the shot cup and a over shot card just to make the crimp stay flat then decide how much Greendot , Unique or Universal Clays you need and you should be good to go .

I am still using SR7625 but I'm down to about 8 pounds which is pretty much 10 gauge only now !

OR ....................................... ,

If you don't wanna mess with it you could always send that hammerless gun to Virginia and I could keep it excercised for you :whistle:

Heck I'd eben be nice enough to take them both out for exercise every couple weeks :rotf:

All BS aside they are both very nice and I cannot imagine anyone that wouldn't like having them in their collection .

Now I wonder how many EH guns were made on the #6 frame with 34" or 36" barrels ?

[Alan B. Webber]

Thanks for the smokeless load tips. I'll do it.
Thanks but both of them are exercised pretty much every week. They are going to take care of some ducks come opening day.
For anybody who is interested there is a bar/restaurant in Sun Valley called The Pioneer Saloon. On the wall of the bar is a GH 10, #6 frame with 36"barrels. I almost fell out of my shoes when I saw it. I know a guy that knows the Owner really well and he can't get it. The guy just won't sell it. It's too bad because it doesn't belong on the barroom wall.
If anyone thinks they know how to deal guns, that deal would be a challenge.

[CraigThompson]

Thanks for the smokeless load tips. I'll do it.
Thanks but both of them are exercised pretty much every week. They are going to take care of some ducks come opening day.
For anybody who is interested there is a bar/restaurant in Sun Valley called The Pioneer Saloon. On the wall of the bar is a GH 10, #6 frame with 36"barrels. I almost fell out of my shoes when I saw it. I know a guy that knows the Owner really well and he can't get it. The guy just won't sell it. It's too bad because it doesn't belong on the barroom wall.
If anyone thinks they know how to deal guns, that deal would be a challenge.

Is the GH 10 in this group ?

https://www.pioneersaloon.com/bullet-boards-market-guns.php

[charlie cleveland]

allen your guns are really nice i m glad you them for hunting for all parkers were meant to go to the field...both guns are choice but for some reason the hammer gun appeals to me with the dark wood and the long barrels...charlie

[Alan B. Webber]

It's always a nice try to liberate a gun off a wall but I've never had much success.

One year I got an under lifter D grade 12 made in 1874 with sawed off barrels from a gun store in Salinas, CA. After Turnbull plucked me for some $ it turned out to be a great shooting gun.

[Alan B. Webber]

Charlie,
Thanks.
The hammer gun is more traditionally Parker with black barrels and a dark red stock. The hammerless was finished by a friend of mine and came out a bit light colored. Also the barrels are kind of English plum color. Not a Parker color.
Alan

[Alan B. Webber]

I have a #6 frame D grade with 36" barrels and a #6 frame D grade hammer gun with 34"
barrels. Both were pretty rough when I got them and I had Turnbull rehab. both of them.
I shoot RST smokeless in them and BP with 1.25 oz of 7.5 shot. They are both deadly on ducks, geese and ZZ trap.
Have fun with yours!