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William Davis
04-02-2015, 11:25 AM
Shot a round of clays with the Parker 10 yesterday. Two shots at the pattern plate before we started. Not a careful test, 20 paces back, and was short of white paint. Picture is worth looking at anyhow.
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You can see the right full choked barrel is very tight at close range using 1 ¼ oz 7 ½ and 27.5 Green Dot. It’s almost a rifle pattern. Appx 12 inches all the shot. Left barrel is little more open than the right , still a full choke, very reasonable pattern for close targets with 1 1/8 oz 20 gr Red dot and a Polywad 12 G Spreader disk roll crimped. most of the shot was in about 25 inches. Double the no disk pattern. Little space left around the spreader insert in the 10 hull is covered up when you roll the hull.
On the course the regular no spreader insert shells crush clay targets, O/U shooters with me were set back by how it breaks. I don’t need that much shot to break a clay target and could use a recoil reduction, will drop to 1 1/8 oz next loading. Spreader works very well. Going to load some more and pattern again longer distance, need to see were the spreader load runs out of gas. My 12 G Parkers don’t use the spreaders over 20 or so yards. Shot load the 10 has may be able to stretch that distance.
William Davis
William Davis
04-02-2015, 12:09 PM
I may have flipped the photos. Actual poi is slightly left of poa which I would expect using a strap on cheek piece to raise the comb a little bit. Raises and throws off to one side same time. Not enough to matter to me.
Will
scott kittredge
04-02-2015, 02:43 PM
try putting you filler wad on top of your shot ,than crimp.
i found that opened the pattern really well.
scott
CraigThompson
04-02-2015, 04:51 PM
I probably should pattern some with birdshot but rarely if ever do I . Buckshot on the other hand I enjoy shooting patterns but I generally do that from the bench and on a paper target.
William Davis
04-03-2015, 11:07 AM
Craig
I ought to be more methodical patterning, limit myself to putting a few on the plate when I pass it. Going to back up to about 30 yards and do the same thing next time. And bring plenty of white paint !
William
CraigThompson
04-03-2015, 06:27 PM
If you wish to open it up I think BPI will sell you some spreader thingies to go inside the shotcup .
Dean Romig
04-03-2015, 08:55 PM
I don't think those patterns should be opened up at all. Remember, they were shot at about 20 yards. The majority of Parkers were patterned at 40 yards in a 30" circle or thirty yards in a 24" circle. My guess is that the patterns produced by that gun might almost be too open at 40 yards.
Pete Lester
04-03-2015, 09:14 PM
It is hard to know how that gun and load compares to others as the industry standard measure is the % of pellets in a 30" circle at 40 yards. I have a 10ga Remington 1894 that shot 92/93% with 1 1/8 #6. When I took the same load and added an X Stream spreader insert the pattern opened up to 58% if I recall correctly. It would be interesting to see what your gun and loads are doing at 40 yards.
CraigThompson
04-03-2015, 10:34 PM
My EH is M and IM and it crushes targets on the skeet field . Of the ones I missed it wasn't because of the tight chokes but rather the idiot shooting the gun stopping his swing :rotf:
William Davis
04-04-2015, 06:06 AM
Dean no doubt the gun was built for 40 yards and longer. I only use spreaders for close clay targets. We have one clays course nearby that throws all short targets, even if long they curl making short shot the best one. Hot shot modern gun shooters use skeet chokes at that place.
I avoid it preferring courses with long targets, however when you have a 20 yard bird, and choked tight, spreader is a good thing to have .
William
Bill Murphy
04-04-2015, 08:26 AM
Craig, where do you shoot skeet and sporting?
CraigThompson
04-04-2015, 12:28 PM
Craig, where do you shoot skeet and sporting?
Shoot skeet at Piedmont and Horseshoe . Sporting is where ever , but usually it's at Central Va . If I wanna shoot a 10 then the Flying Rabbit is the place to go .
Michael Watson
04-18-2015, 10:55 PM
I've just begun loading my shells (2nd box today). After reading this about spreader wads, I experimented today. I'm shooting a more modern 3 1/2" 10 gauge. We're limited to no larger than #7.5 shot a the skeet range. I'm loading 19 grains of Red Dot, an SP10 wad w/ (2) 1/2" long 16 gauge fiber wads & 1 1/8oz. of shot. Figured I'd load them for as long as I can full length, then cut them down as they start to split. Yes, I'm a tightwad.
At 25 yards, both barrels are shooting about a 16" circle. This is tighter than my 28" modified choke 12 gauge. I want a better chance at skeet, so I loaded a couple of shells where I sandwiched the shot between the two filler wads. Patterns from both barrels opened up from 16" to 22". Now I've got to try putting both filler wads on top of the shot.
scott kittredge
04-19-2015, 04:54 AM
I've just begun loading my shells (2nd box today). After reading this about spreader wads, I experimented today. I'm shooting a more modern 3 1/2" 10 gauge. We're limited to no larger than #7.5 shot a the skeet range. I'm loading 19 grains of Red Dot, an SP10 wad w/ (2) 1/2" long 16 gauge fiber wads & 1 1/8oz. of shot. Figured I'd load them for as long as I can full length, then cut them down as they start to split. Yes, I'm a tightwad.
At 25 yards, both barrels are shooting about a 16" circle. This is tighter than my 28" modified choke 12 gauge. I want a better chance at skeet, so I loaded a couple of shells where I sandwiched the shot between the two filler wads. Patterns from both barrels opened up from 16" to 22". Now I've got to try putting both filler wads on top of the shot.
Hi. i found when i put filler wads on top it opened my patterns up to 50 % at 40 yds
William Davis
04-19-2015, 07:09 AM
Polywad does not make a 10 G spreader, however a 12 G spreader disk on top of the shot works fine.
William
Dave Suponski
04-19-2015, 08:56 AM
To add to this conversation. I use 20 gauge spreader discs in my 16 gauge reloads. In talking with Jay Menefee at Polywad he uses one size smaller discs in his factory loads also.
charlie cleveland
04-19-2015, 03:41 PM
i m like pete shoot the gun at 40 yards with the shells you used in these pictures..i always enjoy reading and looking at anything on the big ten.....charlie
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