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Bruce Day
02-25-2015, 05:12 PM
Shooters of Parkers and similar guns may be interested:

We were contacted by representatives of two major US manufacturers of shot shells. Their product managers asked what was appropriate for non tox tungsten based shot shells for old Parkers, Smiths, Foxes etc. Discussion followed including showing Parker shell load tables for all gauges.

Companies are gearing up for increased sales of tungsten based non tox shells. With steel, the only way to increase momentum to lead like numbers is to increase speed. Velocity increases with steel have caused reports of barrel bursting about 4-8 inches before the muzzle.

Retail costs for shells from one major maker will likely be around $1.50 /each cartridge for 1 1/8 at 3 or 3 1/4 dre loads.

Dean Romig
02-25-2015, 05:21 PM
When did this occur Bruce?

Bruce Day
02-25-2015, 05:28 PM
When did this occur Bruce?

Sat and Sun

Dean Romig
02-25-2015, 05:30 PM
OK, at Pheasant Fest then. Were they exhibitors there too?

Drew Hause
02-25-2015, 05:42 PM
Density
https://books.google.com/books?id=QE6qX-PSvlsC&pg=PA54&lpg
Hevi-Shot 11.80 gm/cc
Lead 11.00
Tungsten-Polymer 10.60
Tungsten-Iron 10.30
Bismuth 9.6
Steel 7.86
(Note Hevi-Shot, Tungsten-Iron, and Steel are not recommended for vintage barrels)

From http://www.supertrav.com/pelletcount1.html
1 1/8 oz. Tungsten-Polymer/Matrix and Lead 4s both have 152 pellets

3 Dram Eq. - 1200 fps
3 1/4 Dram - 1255 fps (my vote for pheasants on non-tox land)
3 1/2 Dram - 1300 fps

Rick Losey
02-25-2015, 05:46 PM
Bruce,

was this a one-of conversation?

or are you staying in contact with these reps and can keep us updated?

Mills Morrison
02-25-2015, 05:50 PM
They'll have one customer here