Ponsness Warren LS 1000

[CraigThompson]

Anyone here use one of the PW 1000 machines ? I've used a number if the 800 machines but not this version without all the sizer shell holders . They told me they would not make me an 800 Plus for the Short Ten but they would trim a 1000 for that application .

[Paul Harm]

Man, you gotta shot a lot of 10ga to spend money like that. JMHO

[CraigThompson]

Man, you gotta shot a lot of 10ga to spend money like that. JMHO

It's a grand with them setting it for 2 7/8" .

You have no idea how much I hate pulling the handle on a 600 JR 5 or so times to make a single shell .

The rub is going to be with the over shot cards I put in my shells so the crimp doesn't sink so to speak . Might have to bump my shot charge up to 1 3/8 ounces .

[Fred Lowe]

Craig,

Like you, I use an 800 plus, but don't currently load 2 1/2". Hopefully someone will be able to address those. I would have thought the 800 Plus would be an easier loader to shorten than the LS1000. I have a feeling that 2 1/2" shells are in my future.:rolleyes:
I currently own both the 28 ga. and 20 ga. tooling heads and find them very easy to switch between. In my mind the speed of the Ponsness alone is worth the reloader, but I also believe they do produce a superior reloaded shell.
At the time I purchased, I sold my 3 Hornady 366's, and the proceeds covered the cost of the 800 plus. I recently did a pretty good sized run of 20's that I inserted Spred-R's into and that went very smoothly.

I do enjoy reloading due to the substantial savings, and my ability to build most any type of shell I desire. I also enjoy spending less time and getting far more shells per hour. Plus no reloaders elbow.

If one watches eBay, there are deals to be had far below the retail price of a new one. In the past Ponsness has occasionally run sales on their products at reloaders.com. I believe I paid $600 for mine new set up as a 20 gauge just a few years ago.

[Bill Murphy]

Why not use more wad if your shells are not filling up? If you are using plastic wads, put a smaller wad in the shot cup or use the bean system.

[CraigThompson]

Why not use more wad if your shells are not filling up? If you are using plastic wads, put a smaller wad in the shot cup or use the bean system.

My short tens already use a card wad in the bottom of the shot cup . In an SP-10 wad I use 1 1/4 ounce of shot , a 16 gauge 1/8" wad under the shot and a 10 gauge over shot wad . The overshot wad serves a dual purpose . For one it keeps the tops from being sunken and it also is nice to have there in case of shot size holes in the middleof the crimp . Either way if I pony up the cabbage for a LS 1000 I think this will be a major improvement over the 600 JR atleast for clay/bird shells . I'll still need the 600 JR to load the buckshot however .

[CraigThompson]

Craig,

Like you, I use an 800 plus, but don't currently load 2 1/2". Hopefully someone will be able to address those. I would have thought the 800 Plus would be an easier loader to shorten than the LS1000. I have a feeling that 2 1/2" shells are in my future.:rolleyes:
I currently own both the 28 ga. and 20 ga. tooling heads and find them very easy to switch between. In my mind the speed of the Ponsness alone is worth the reloader, but I also believe they do produce a superior reloaded shell.
At the time I purchased, I sold my 3 Hornady 366's, and the proceeds covered the cost of the 800 plus. I recently did a pretty good sized run of 20's that I inserted Spred-R's into and that went very smoothly.

I do enjoy reloading due to the substantial savings, and my ability to build most any type of shell I desire. I also enjoy spending less time and getting far more shells per hour. Plus no reloaders elbow.

If one watches eBay, there are deals to be had far below the retail price of a new one. In the past Ponsness has occasionally run sales on their products at reloaders.com. I believe I paid $600 for mine new set up as a 20 gauge just a few years ago.



When I finally got around to calling PW they told me under no circumstances would they make me a 10 gauge on the 800 style machines . I truly prefer the 800 with the dies keeping the shell the entire trip thru the machine . They did say however they would tweak a LS 1000 10 gauge 3 1/2" machine to 2 7/8" . Guy said all he needed to do was mill one or two things and make a couple small adjustments . All for an additional $30 on a brand new LS 1000 .

At the moment I don't have a PW 800 in my loading room . I do however plan on adding a new 800 Plus and die sets for 12 , 16 , 20 , 28 and 410 .

When I first started loading shotgun shells I started with a pair of used 800B's in 12 and 28 . Shortly there after I bought new 800C's in 20 and 410 . A year or two later I sold the pair of 800B's and replaced them with two more 800C's . At that time I was also loading the 10 gauge 3 1/2" and the 16 gauge on a PW 375C .

I cannot say it to many times I just plain like PW machines . My rifle/pistol loader my entire reloading life has been the same PW Metallic II . I've been using that Metallic II about 35 years I think .

[CraigThompson]

Fred I suspect PW would sell you 12 , 16 or 20 gauge machines for 2 1/2" shells . I also think all you would really need are a set of the sizers for each gauge milled down a 1/4" from the standard size .

[CraigThompson]

Fred I suspect PW would sell you 12 , 16 or 20 gauge machines for 2 1/2" shells . I also think all you would really need are a set of the sizers for each gauge milled down a 1/4" from the standard size . And you could use the dies you already have for those gauges . I suspect one or two adjustments would also be necessary . When changing from 2 3/4" to 2 1/2" or vice versa .

[Fred Lowe]

Yes, you're right Craig.
I went back, read your original post and realize that you were talking of the short 10. I had it in my mind you were talking 2 1/2" -12 ga.
I apologize for running off on your thread.:cuss:

[CraigThompson]

Yes, you're right Craig.
I went back, read your original post and realize that you were talking of the short 10. I had it in my mind you were talking 2 1/2" -12 ga.
I apologize for running off on your thread.:cuss:

Not a problem ! If I were able I wouldn't mind 2 1/2" 800's fir the 12,16,20 myself !

[Bill Murphy]

I solve that problem by just using 2 3/4" shells in my 2 1/2" guns. By the way, I have been using P-W loaders since the first year they made them. I am still loading on my original 800Bs.

[John Dallas]

I had 2 800B's - a 12 and a 20. Used them a lot, and liked them, but got scared by the stories of lack of service parts. Sold the 12 gauge and bought an 800+. It's fantastic! Smoother, and less mistakes than with the 800B. Still using the 20 gauge (infrequently) because most of my target shooting these days is 12 gauge. Wish could find some 800x powder to run thru the 20 gauge.

[Bill Murphy]

Just as an example, my AA 12s are about 2 5/8", my Top Gun 20s are about 2 5/8", my Gun Club 12s are about 2 5/8". Parker Brothers and others recommended 2 5/8" shells in 2 1/2" chambers. I think I will stick with my standard loaders.