View Full Version : 16 gauge GHE finds a good home
Brian Hornacek
02-09-2015, 11:08 PM
At a gun show this weekend I ran into 82646 16 gauge GHE on a 0 frame. Its a neat little gun that is in the book as a hammerless, pistol grip, no extras and 26" barrels. Probably a typo on the extras as it most definitely has ejectors. It retains the original Damascus barrels choked Cyl./Mod, has 2 9/16 chambers, is stamped 3lb 2oz with no less than 9 little dings in them. Back in the day it was modified to a straight grip in a tasteful way, the stock was cut to 12 7/8" with a pad and spacer making it 14". I bought the gun from a aging farmer no less than 80 years in age. The farmer said a farmhand that boarded with his family left it behind while he was still living at home 60 years prior. He said he had not shot the gun in over 40 years.
82646 is nothing particularly special but any time a new parker surfaces from a closet is a better day for Parker people. Here are the before pictures and I will have after pictures in a few months.
CraigThompson
02-09-2015, 11:12 PM
Congrats !
Fred Slyfield
02-09-2015, 11:42 PM
Very nice , I wonder who did the alteration from pistol grip to straight??
David Noble
02-10-2015, 02:06 AM
Actually, this is an extractor gun not an ejector, but nice find anyway. Looking forward to the after pics.
Dean Romig
02-10-2015, 08:08 AM
To each his own - but if it were mine I wouldn't change a thing besides re-cutting the checkering and then burnishing it to soften it. What a pretty little shooter! Great find!
Brian Hornacek
02-10-2015, 08:23 AM
I am not a very smart guy but this gun has ejectors.
Dean Romig
02-10-2015, 08:30 AM
No, it has an extractor that lifts both shells at the same time. Ejectors pop the fired shells one at a tim or simultaneously depending if one or both shells are fired.
Bobby Goins
02-10-2015, 08:43 AM
Sweet gun with an interesting story!
Brian Hornacek
02-10-2015, 08:47 AM
Hey guys I am a young guy of 45 from Ohio that barely made through secondary education let alone college. If this gun ain't got ejectors then I will buy each of you a steak vs a cup coffee to me the next time I see you.......those are odds of ignorant confidence or I know what it means when the little shell things pop out. Pictures after my day job this evening.:cheers:
Bill Murphy
02-10-2015, 09:08 AM
I'd like to see a picture of the ejector mechanism so we can determine whether the ejectors are Parker or some other type.
Justin Julian
02-10-2015, 09:55 AM
I don't see the ejector control rods protruding from the frame knuckles, but from that angle, I have been fooled once before. It is amazing how easily concealed they can be due to a quartering angle photo like the one posted. A photo of the underside of the forend iron will tell the full story.
Harold Lee Pickens
02-10-2015, 10:37 AM
Brian, what part of Ohio are you from? I grew up in Belmont county and work in Martins Ferry, down on the Ohio River. I have a GH O frame 16, that is one of my favorite guns to shoot. I agree with Dean, in that recutting the checkering on the st. grip would be good. Also, there is a local guy here who restores damascus barrels and could also take the dings out. Great find!
BTW, I have 2 Parkers, a DHE 16 and VH 20 with 26" barrels and factory Cyl/mod chokes--makes for a great little bird gun.
Brian Hornacek
02-10-2015, 11:00 AM
I grew up in Barberton but I am familiar with your area. I worked in Steubenville during my early 20's and had good fun chasing through the hills near Follansbee W VA hunting deer.
Yes, fix the dents, checker the wood, add a new pad and stabilize the head from oil and hoppy's abuse. I am concerned about the close proximity of the trigger guard screw and the trigger plate screw below it maybe creating some weakness in the wrist. Nothing here that can't be fixed.
Steve Huffman
02-10-2015, 11:21 AM
Not knocking the gun but in the last picture has the roll been replaced or repaired just looks thin.
Harold Lee Pickens
02-10-2015, 11:25 AM
Here is a picture of a straight grip on my DHE O frame 16 w/ 26" cyl/mod chokes.
Brian Dudley
02-10-2015, 11:29 AM
This gun is a good example of one that should have not been converted to a straight grip. With a straight toe line, the back of the grip looks pinched. The thickness of the wrist should be consistent all the way back or get thicker as it goes back.
When considering a straight grip conversion, these form issues should be considered.
Regarding the roll joint... The extractor extension is not correct for sure. Looks like an additional piece that has been welded on or something.
Joe Dreisch
02-10-2015, 11:49 AM
Look closely at the last picture. The underside of the dolls head is slotted for ejectors.....?!
Brian Dudley
02-10-2015, 12:12 PM
And you can see split ejector shafts in fromt of the barrel hook.
But it has a retaining screw for the extractor.
This gun has been messed with quite a bit. Converted from something to something.
Maybe non Original barrels barrels fitted to the frame???
Brad Bachelder
02-10-2015, 02:38 PM
Another great find from the wilds of Canada eh!
Dean Romig
02-10-2015, 03:18 PM
Okay... I see a non-Parker thingy welded to the roll joint. This should be interesting. I'm looking forward to the pictures this evening.
Bill Murphy
02-10-2015, 04:01 PM
In that serial number range, the extractor stop screw would be standard equipment, and still be there after conversion to ejectors. I would like to see some other interior pictures to see if the ejector conversion was from Parker Brothers or someone else.
Dean Romig
02-10-2015, 04:30 PM
Gotta disagree with you there Bill. Unfortunately my picture of the serial number is almost blurred out but the gun is 79355 which puts it reasonably in the same range.
Oddly, 79355 is also a 16, 0-frame that had the pistol grip crudely whittled down. The OP's job was much more nicely done... I'm very envious.
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Brian Dudley
02-10-2015, 05:02 PM
In that serial number range, the extractor stop screw would be standard equipment, and still be there after conversion to ejectors. I would like to see some other interior pictures to see if the ejector conversion was from Parker Brothers or someone else.
But... that screw would not be there if it was originally an ejector gun.
Dean Romig
02-10-2015, 05:52 PM
Well, in that serial number range ejectors had not been introduced yet on Parkers. They first appeared in catalogs in 1901.
Brian Hornacek
02-10-2015, 06:43 PM
Well here are the detailed pictures. I believe it was the original barrel used for the ejector conversion......yes it sure appears that they were added at a later date. The hole over the ejector mechanism has a dummy screw to fill it. Thanks everyone for your input and I will appreciate any information on the conversion.
$40 is in the mail to our good friend in PA.
Brian Dudley
02-10-2015, 06:44 PM
You got that right Dean.
didnt put two and two together with the S/N.
Brian,
Looks like another interesting aftermarket ejector system.
And the extractor arm was cut off and a narrower piece installed in order to fit between the two kicker rods.
Justin Julian
02-10-2015, 07:49 PM
The ejector mechanism in the forend iron looks like a Fox.
Dave Suponski
02-10-2015, 08:07 PM
Very interesting. I like this gun even more now...
Bill Murphy
02-11-2015, 03:53 PM
Dean, I guess I should have said "The hole would still be there." The screw may not be there, but the hole won't disappear, although it may be filled. On the aftermarket ejectors on the original poster's gun, the screw is still there because there is not an ejector stop on the doll's head. I believe that would have been a better system on the Parker ejector system also. The puny little stop on the doll's head has been a headache for some owners. A nice heavy screw would never present a problem.
Mills Morrison
02-11-2015, 04:21 PM
How did I miss this post? That is a great gun!
Brian Hornacek
03-13-2015, 10:02 PM
Quick update.
The letter states the gun shipped 11/2/1896 to CW Hackett in St Pail Min. Special request for trigger pull as light as can and chokes Cyl./Mod. Price was $80 and it left at 6 lbs. 7 oz.
I am going to like the pistol grip better thanks to the help of a gentleman stock maker who felt sorry for this little gun and dug into his stock stash for me.
This gun is going to look good next to my dog and a few Hun's this fall.
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