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bobutler
01-13-2015, 04:48 PM
I have been looking at a 12 gauge VHE, serial number 242357. The wood has been replaced. It is a Remington era gun. Would I need to order a letter to know if it came with BTFE? It has one now.

Thanks

Bo

Dean Romig
01-13-2015, 04:59 PM
If an IBM card exists in the PGCA files it may indicate what it had for a forend originally but that would be the only way to know for certain.

Another option is to check with Bob Beach at Griffin & Howe for the Parkers that were sold by A&F and VL&D

Mike Franzen
01-13-2015, 05:27 PM
Post some good quality pics and you will get an answer as to the for ends originality

bobutler
01-13-2015, 05:49 PM
It's a very interesting piece. some case color, SST, barrels in great shape. All new wood, though extremely nice wood. If I purchase it, I will post pictures. Thanks for the help.

David Noble
01-13-2015, 06:16 PM
Is the forearm lug a beavertail lug? Do the barrels appear to be refinished? If the lug is a beavertail type and the barrels do not appear refinished then it was likely an original beavertail gun.

Mark Ouellette
01-13-2015, 06:56 PM
If I purchase it, I will post pictures. Thanks for the help.

Bo,

You asked for help and knowledgeable members offered by inviting you to post photos. If you post photos of the forend those members who have 25 to 50 years each collecting Parkers would happily share their knowledge with which you. Then, you will be able to make an informed purchase decision. I know what I would do. :whistle:

Mark

Mike Franzen
01-13-2015, 11:28 PM
Bo, sorry I misread your post. I mistakenly thought you were asking about the originality of the existing forend. After re-reading I see you are asking if the gun originally was equipped with a BTFE. You may have to order a letter ,if info is available, to find out

Scott Siegmund
01-14-2015, 12:29 AM
I just joined today to learn more details about the Parker that's been in the family for 40+ years, so informally hello everyone!

Bo,

Interesting coincidence as my gun is #242242. Sadly the pad was altered but other than that I think it's pretty original.

Here's the fore stock:

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-n23Cgt5/0/L/i-n23Cgt5-L.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-hCFZnT9/0/L/i-hCFZnT9-L.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-RZmrv7B/0/L/i-RZmrv7B-L.jpg

Hope it helps you out.

Dean Romig
01-14-2015, 07:44 AM
Scott, as you stated, except for the 'pad' your VHE is "right as rain". It looks like you might have a problem with the ejector hammer in the forend staying cocked. Do NOT attempt to repair it yourself. If it is in fact, a problem, it needs to go to an expert in Parker ejector work.
That's an extremely nice gun and was made at the very end of Parker production by Remington Arms in Ilion, NY.

At one time I owned the beavertail forend from Parker 242262 which was a DHE or CHE.

bobutler
01-14-2015, 08:24 AM
Scott: Thanks for the pictures. Nice looking Parker.

Rich Anderson
01-14-2015, 10:40 AM
Does your BTF have a recoil bolt going the length of the forearm? This is generally omitted when an aftermarket BTF is fitted to a gun.

Scott Siegmund
01-14-2015, 01:45 PM
Scott, as you stated, except for the 'pad' your VHE is "right as rain". It looks like you might have a problem with the ejector hammer in the forend staying cocked. Do NOT attempt to repair it yourself. If it is in fact, a problem, it needs to go to an expert in Parker ejector work.
That's an extremely nice gun and was made at the very end of Parker production by Remington Arms in Ilion, NY.

At one time I owned the beavertail forend from Parker 242262 which was a DHE or CHE.

Thanks Dean.

20 serial numbers apart is amazing!

Scott: Thanks for the pictures. Nice looking Parker.
Welcome Bo, Good Luck!

George M. Purtill
02-22-2015, 10:45 PM
Scott
I am writing on late Remington Parkers.
Can you give me the details on 242242

Brian Dudley
02-23-2015, 10:46 AM
That BTFE has the proper iron or the draw bolt. You can tell by the look of the front of the iron.

By the look of the buttstock, that Morgan adjustable pad looks added on without alteration to the stock. This is based not he appear ant length of the stock. A proper buttplate could likely be fitted back onto that gun to make it look original and unaltered.

Dean Romig
02-23-2015, 12:19 PM
I agree. Judging by the location of the shield in relation to the grip cap and the toe of the stock wood, it appears to be original length.

Scott Siegmund
02-23-2015, 01:15 PM
Instead of hijacking this thread I created a new thread for my gun to continue the discussion. http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15703

I very much appreciate everyone's input as the knowledge base within PGCA is by far the best source of learning I have found.

Thank you!