Parker 10 gauge 3 1/2"

[CraigThompson]

I've been reading The two volume Parker books on and off for a week or so now . In volume 1 in the grade chapters I saw pics of a VHE 10 gauge that's stamped for 3 1/2" shells . I was wondering is there an estimate how many 10's were stamped for the big shells and not just V grade but for all grades combined .

[charlie cleveland]

i don t know how many were made but there cannot be many of them out there.i ve only heard of 3 mentioned here on the netand have never seen one come up for sale...charlie

[Bill Murphy]

There is really no way to know how many ten gauge Parkers were 3 1/2" chambered guns from the late era. In theory, we could read all of the IBM cards and stock book entries, but we would miss a lot of entries that are no longer with us.

[Robert Delk]

Didn't Alex Kerr have an AHE in 10 magnum. I thought I saw it mentioned in one of his articles.

[Bill Murphy]

Where was this article by Alex Kerr? It sounds like something he would order. I know of three mag tens in our membership, two being rebarrels of earlier guns, one originally made at Remington or Parker Brothers as a mag ten. There must be more out there, because I don't get out much. One other steel barrel rebarrel has what are probably factory 3 1/2" chambers, but do not have the late Remington barrel lug marking. Guns like my recently acquired factory 3 1/2" chambered ten on a #6 frame will probably digest modern 3 1/2" shells, but were not intended for them. I would like to measure the wall thickness at various points along the tube on an original Remington marked mag ten and compare to some of the rebarrels that are not marked 3 1/2".

[Robert Delk]

I definitely remember it was an A grade as you don't forget a magnum 10 in a high grade but it escapes me where I read it but it could be in a Guns & Ammo article. It would be an article from the late 80's or later.Is there an index for the Guns & Ammo magazines for that era? I'm also sure it was Alex Kerr.

[charlie cleveland]

we gotta find this articule on the a grade 10 ga magnum....charlie

[Mark Ouellette]

Two years ago I was offered a Parker AHE 10 Gauge magnum but it was not in my budget...

[charlie cleveland]

bet you still dream about this gun...charlie

[Dave Noreen]

I remember a steel barrel AHE-Grade 10-gauge being displayed at the winter Las Vegas show a decade or more ago when the PGCA had a presence there.

[Bill Murphy]

There was an AHE ten at the Ohio Gun Collectors show when PGCA had a meeting there. If it wasn't on Jim Parker's table, it was close to it. There was also a vent rib ten, maybe the AHE, but I'm not sure.

[John Dallas]

A friend of mine has an A grade 10 gauge (don't remember if it has ejectors) which I thought to the Detroit Gun Club at our S x S shoot about 2 years ago. I posted pictures of the gun here, but now can't find them. I think Mark O took some pix. Perhaps he will have better luck finding them.

[Mark Ouellette]

John,

Here are the photos:
http://parkerguns.org/forums/album.php?albumid=308

The gun is too early for ejectors and several decades too early to me a 10 gauge magnum.

Mark

[Dave Suponski]

Mark, Wasn't this gun owned by a member up your way who came to Hidden Hollow a couple of times?

[Mark Ouellette]

Dave,

I do not know. John D. brought it to a local shoot. It belongs to a friend of his whom I assume is local to lower Michigan.

Mark

[John Dallas]

My bad. It's not a magnum. Should have read the title of the thread. Dave - if you are asking about the gun in Mark's last post, I am pretty sure the gun hasn't been out of the family's safe for years

[Dave Suponski]

Thanks for clearing that up John. That is a wonderful gun.

[Mark Ouellette]

It was as "as new" a Damascus 10 gauge that I've seen!

[Bill Murphy]

Back to late fluid steel tens. A fluid steel AHE ten was displayed by one of our members when we had an annual meeting at Richmond. It could have been one of the guns from the Ohio meeting.

[Mark Ouellette]

Bill,

Than AHE may have been the one offered to me. I think that was during October of 2013. If you have the money, and I mean a lot of it, I will broker the deal for you.

Mark

[CraigThompson]

A friend of mine has an A grade 10 gauge (don't remember if it has ejectors) which I thought to the Detroit Gun Club at our S x S shoot about 2 years ago. I posted pictures of the gun here, but now can't find them. I think Mark O took some pix. Perhaps he will have better luck finding them.


Did you or do you know a fellow name of Al Magyar ?

He was a NSSA First Team All American about 20-25 years ago and I believe he was the one that put on the old "Motor State Skeet Shoot" at the Detroit Gunclub .

He and Robert Paxton were two man team partners back then and I believe they were kinda buisness partners in wha is now Paxton Arms .

[John Dallas]

Magyar was a legend in Detroit shooting circles. I never knew him, but his name is on many trophies at DGC.

[Bill Murphy]

I don't know how Al Magyar enters into the A Grade ten conversation, but yes, I know him and his wife Trish. Al is presently the president of NSSA if I'm not mistaken. He is still actively shooting NSSA skeet.

[CraigThompson]

Hmmm so it's safe to assume that no more then possibly a couple dozen marked 3 1/2" guns were ever produced ?

Or shall I say originally produced as such ?

[Bill Murphy]

That would be a good assumption. We still need to measure the wall thickness of fluid steel standard tens to determine whether the factory 3 1/2" tens use the same tubes as the standard guns.

[Carl G. Bachhuber]

The article by Alex Kerr was in 'Guns&Ammo', late 70's or early 80's. As I recall he started doing a shotgun column for them. I remember him mentioning the 10 but I don't remember the context. I used to really love going into his gun shop. For a kid it was a palace of dreams.
C.G.B.