16 ga ammo

[Chuck Bishop]

I finally have a 16ga VH and I need ammo for it. I'm not going to shoot it regularly so I'm going to shoot factory loads instead of reloading. It looks like I can buy Remington game loads with 1oz of shot locally, or I can buy RST's in either 7/8 oz or 3/4 oz. Considering I'm just getting over shoulder surgery, recoil would be a consideration and of course the 1 oz game loads would have more recoil than the RST's. There is also a cost difference, the game loads would be about $95 for a flat versus $125 for the RST. Has anyone shot the Remington game loads and are they a shell that has a lot of felt recoil? I realize everyone feels recoil differently.

[John Dallas]

IMHO, factory shells have higher recoil, to ensure they can cycle through dirty semi-autos. I suspect (altho I have no data) that they use smaller amounts of hot powder, and may save a bit of money on powder costs.

[Bruce Day]

Chuck, the Rem 1 oz loads will have more recoil than Federal 1 oz loads. I order Federal H160 loads, 2 1/2 dram, 1165 fps. My case price brings it down to $80 per flat. I use that load for most targets and hunting in either 8, 7 1/2 or 6.

The Remington 1 oz 16's are 1200fps. Although no dre is stated, my guess is that they are 2 3/4 dre. Some here have complained about their recoil. To me its the right recoil for their load, although it is more than the Federals.

I have shot RST 1 oz loads, they are about the same speed as Federals, and to my shoulder, the RST 1oz and the Fed 1 oz feel the same. Obviously, if you really need minimal recoil, you could ask RST to run a few cases of 7/8 oz low speed, maybe 1050 or 1100fps.

[Rick Losey]

I have always found that the Remington game loads to be some of the heaviest recoiling shells for their load

i do not shoot them in any of my side by sides

[George M. Purtill]

Chuck- Cabela's had their Herter's brand with 1 oz. in #8 shot for $69.99 per flat in East Hartford. I loaded up on them 3 weeks ago. They appear to be Cheddite hulls.
I used them interchangably with RSTs 2.5 inch loads last Sunday at Addieville and honestly didn't feel much difference.
I was able to miss equally well with both loads.

[Dean Romig]

$125 for RST 16's?? They were only $110/flat when I bought them last.

[Chuck Bishop]

Dean, you forget about the shipping. I'm not sure if they charge Pa tax.

[David Holes]

I just got two more cases of herters from Cabelas, free shipping and 20% off, came to 5.00 per box. At these prices already have a lifetime supply.

[George M. Purtill]

I just got two more cases of herters from Cabelas, free shipping and 20% off, came to 5.00 per box. At these prices already have a lifetime supply.

David- is that on their website now?

[Rick Losey]

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Ammunition/Shotgun-Ammunition|/pc/104792580/c/104691780/sc/104567580/Hertersreg-Select-Field-Dove-and-Quail-Shotshells/1601971.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshot gun-ammunition%2F_%2FN-1100191%2B4294751414%2FNe-4294751414%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104567580%3FWTz_l%3DUnknown%253Bcat10 4691780%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=Unknown%3Bcat104691780%3Bcat104567580

[David Holes]

I am a Cabelas Club Visa member which gives me additional benefits. But the web site has them discounted from reg. price. I recommend the club card. They email specials all the time and they vary in discount, so I wait for the right one. The shells are 1165 fps so I shoot them in all my guns , Damascus included. Low recoil for 1 oz.

[George M. Purtill]

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Ammunition/Shotgun-Ammunition|/pc/104792580/c/104691780/sc/104567580/Hertersreg-Select-Field-Dove-and-Quail-Shotshells/1601971.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshot gun-ammunition%2F_%2FN-1100191%2B4294751414%2FNe-4294751414%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104567580%3FWTz_l%3DUnknown%253Bcat10 4691780%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=Unknown%3Bcat104691780%3Bcat104567580

thanks but where does the 20% off come from?

[Jeff Kuss]

I shot some Herter's 16s and rsts last Sunday. Both work well, but the rsts were less recoil by far.

[Rick Losey]

thanks but where does the 20% off come from?

it was a coupon that came in the mail

i'll need to find it for the codes

[Chuck Bishop]

Thanks for the replies. I ordered the Herters 16ga, 1oz. dove and quail loads. I got 2 flats for the price I would have paid for 1 flat of RST's. I'll just have to put up with a little more recoil.

[Dean Romig]

But Chuck..... your shoulder.... :shock:

[edgarspencer]

What about my shoulder?

[Dean Romig]

Correction... Chuck's shoulder.

[David Holes]

Chucks wallet and his shoulder will take less pounding

[Dave Suponski]

Chuck, For us double shooters the only thing Remington Game loads are good fopr are the empty hulls....:)

[Jerry Harlow]

Chuck, For us double shooters the only thing Remington Game loads are good fopr are the empty hulls....:)

Dave you are correct. They pound my Trojan and VH 16 so after a box or two I quit them. But love them in my Sweet Sixteen A5. They smoke doves just like a 12.

[Harold Lee Pickens]

I have shot quite a few of the Cabela's/Herters and have also been reloading them. They are cheddite hulls. Don't think I'd shoot them thru Damascus barrels, but they reload nicely, My VH 16 1 frame has known nothing but the black RGL's since I bought it in 1986. I personally would shoot them. I have 6 cases of RGL's left that I bought at $40/case and 2 cases of Federals and 6 cases of the Herters. My reloads of those shells and 2 1/2" RST's are definitely more recoil friendly when shooting a lot such as shooting clays. You might be able to pick up a MEC 600 cheaply at a gun show and try reloading. I picked up a Mec 600 in 20 ga+ 100 wads and 100 primers for $50 at the gun show in Washington, Pa on Sat. Are you having your shoot in Harrisburg again this spring?

[Chuck Bishop]

Harold, my shoot is set for April 11th. Hope you can make it.

[Richard Flanders]

Look at Sportsmans warehouse or Cabelas and see what Rio offers. They have a good website also. They offer the best variety of loads in other guages and for a good price.