Getting a handle on VH(E) Value

[Bobby Cash]

I recently posted regarding 20 gauge VH value. Thanks to all that replied.
As I stated in my post, I felt I needed to have A Parker and settled on a 1927 VH 20 gauge, 2 1/2' chambers, 28 inch barrels, .619 bore diameter, .032 barrel wall thickness, choked .024/.010, 6 pounds 3 ounce, 80 to 85% condition. I came in less than 5K and am extremely comfortable with the purchase. I shot a 22 on Skeet in a light rain with RST 2 1/2" lite 7/8 oz, #8 shot shells. To say it was my pleasure would be a gross understatement.

It's been 72 hours and I now feel the need to acquire another Parker.
I'm only interested in guns I can shoot, I'm not looking for museum pieces. I'm trying to stick with ungraded specimens and I went on Puglisi's website and found a beautiful 20 gauge VHE
http://www.pugsguns.com/findItem.action?id=2042

I don't understand the gun to asking price(value) ratio.
Is it the seller?
Is it condition?
Is it the Ejectors?
Is a 20 gauge VHE a rarity?

As always:bowdown:
Bobby

[Dean Romig]

1. Yes

2. Yes

3. Yes

4. In that condition and with a straight grip, Yes.

maybe I should sell my VHE 28... :rolleyes:

[Dave Suponski]

Bobby,While ejectors add value to some people I think a dealers determination of grade/original condition/rarity sets the initial asking price.Oh ya as Austin says Gauge! Thanks Austin!

[Austin W Hogan]

There are three factors that determine Parker prices. They are gauge, gauge and gauge. Find a 12 gauge that you like; a 16 of similar grade and condition will sell for 2x more; a 20 for 2x again a 28 for 2x or maybe 3x and a 410 for another 2x or 3x . If you like to shoot, you can have a long 12, a short 12, a heavy twelve a light 12 a straight grip 12 and maybe even a trap and a skeet for the price of one small gauge gun.

Best, Austin

[Bill Murphy]

Yeah, but eights and four tens are much more fun than twelves. Just ask Mr. Puglisi.

[Rodney Sayre]

I do not know what I am doing yet. New member , but are people really shooting the old 10 gauges?

[Steve Huffman]

With the proper load and the right turkey it will be my first and I hope to hell not my last .:):shock::duck:

[Dave Suponski]

Absolutley....The boys at my gun club love it when I shoot my NH 10ga. at trap...

[Dean Romig]

We shoot just about any Parker from 28 ga. Damascus right up to 10 and 8 gauge Damascus barrels as well as those made of fluid steel if they are deemed safe enough to shoot.

[Jim Williams]

I do not know what I am doing yet. New member , but are people really shooting the old 10 gauges?

Yup.

[Destry L. Hoffard]

The geese and ducks don't seem to realize it's not an 870 when I shoot them with my various double barrel 10 gauge guns.

Here's one of me and Davis a couple winters back out on the Eastern Shore:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b398/MarketHunter/KimbleCaptainGeese.jpg

Here's Flanders with his 10 gauge and a nice drake canvasback. He'd had a rough day, hammer screw broke off, but was still killing them:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b398/MarketHunter/2-26-2009-15-1.jpg


DLH

[Rodney Sayre]

I would love to bring home a beautiful turkey with my parker. The reason for my question on shooting a 10 gauge is that I have made a deposit on one, a hammer gun 1902 with "ring" barrels, forgive my ignorance. The gun is in good shape and looks all original. Where would one get ammo for a 10?

[Rodney Sayre]

I believe after all the fun you guys are having with those ten gauges I will have to make the commitment. I will post some pictures of it when I figure out what I am doing. This is all new to me . I am a new member having a Parker for 20 years that I have not talked about yet. I am just really excited about meeting others who love the old doubles.

[Dave Suponski]

Rodney,I use RST shells in my 10's as I don,t reload 10 gauge. There are a few fellas here that load their own 10's.I'm sure they could help you out with some great loads....:)

[Jim Williams]

Mine are reloads, but RST makes a load that is almost (if not exact) identical. No more shells than I shoot in the 10 ga., I think I'll probably just buy from RST next time.

Jim

[Dean Romig]

Destry, what is that 10 ga. that Rich Flanders has in your picture? It looks like a Parker hammer gun but without the hammers.

Oh, wait... didn't I read something about him losing a hammer and had to continue the hunt shooting just one barrel?

[Destry L. Hoffard]

Dean,

That's the deal, we were moving stuff around in the boat and it accidentally got knocked over. One hammer screw broke off leaving him shooting single shot, he still finished the day with a limit.

Rodney,

If you want 10 gauge ammo these are the boys to get it from. There just isn't anything or anybody better than RST for product quality or customer service.

http://www.rstshells.com/



Destry


P.S. We've got to watch it boys, we're getting almost as bad as Foxy on wandering off topic. This thread started out with some poor guy asking about a 20 gauge......

[Dave Suponski]

Maybe John could install an anti-veering device....:rolleyes: Something like WARNING...WARNING.....YOU ARE VEERING....STOP NOW!!!!

[John Dunkle]

Maybe John could install an anti-veering device....:rolleyes: Something like WARNING...WARNING.....YOU ARE VEERING....STOP NOW!!!! Oh sure... Like this guy "John" has anything better to do then to keep you folks "on topic"....

Once upon a time - I really did have a life.... HEH!!!

;)

John

[Rodney Sayre]

sorry for taking you off the topic guys but I realy appreciate the info...:I am new at this.. thanks again

[Dave Suponski]

Jeez John...I was just kiddin......:throw:

[Bobby Cash]

I believe it was that John guy that helped veer my first thread regarding a Cabela's 20 gauge. He completely trumpted my VH with images of his most beautiful DH(E). so much so that when my gun came from K.C. I just threw it away.

Now this, I'm trying to learn what drives the price of Parkers and end up on a turkey and goose hunt with some of the big dogs.

All kidding aside, I'm perfectly happy letting you all drive the bus, It's just a pleasure going along for the ride.

As always:bowdown:
Bobby

[Dave Suponski]

believe it was that John guy that helped veer my first thread regarding a Cabela's 20 gauge. He completely trumpted my VH with images of his most beautiful DH(E). so much so that when my gun came from K.C. I just threw it away.

:biglaugh:Bobby ...That was funny right there!

[Carl Brandt]

Rodney,

Drive on up 95 to Sanford NC to the Southern SxS in April and you'll see some marvelous 10ga guns and shooting. Bring your 10.

Carl.

[Eric Eis]

Now John since you got that real nice D grade 20 when can I expect to get that worn out D grade 20 that we have talked about. You need to let me know when you ship it so I can be home to sign for the UPS shipment.....:)

[Bruce Day]

The same factors that drive the price of Parkers drive the price of classic cars. Scarcity, configuration and condition. High grade, small bore and high condition, right or wrong, command high prices. The Puglisi VHE 20 that you asked about is an ultra high condition gun and the person who is looking for that degree of condition will be interested in that gun. If you are looking for a shooter, like the person looking for a basic Corvette driver, there are lots available at lesser prices.

I watch those Barrett-Jackson auctions and wonder what is going on. There is some throwing money at a car just because it looks like a fun toy, but others seem to be bought by investors who know their cars. You can see what a less than correct restoration does to a car, same thing to Parkers, and it may bring less than an unrestored, modest condition original. All very interesting and it takes years in the game to learn. And its interesting to learn that quite a few Parker collectors are classic car collectors too. Some have very interesting toys.