Parker Reproduction with Q1/Q2 Barrels

[ron belanger]

Any idea how rare the Q1-Q2 barrels are?

I am thinking very hard about selling my Parker Reproduction (just spent all my cash on a new garage and driveway paving) and with the holidays coming, selling this beautiful, shotgun would put my bank account back on black...for a little while anyways...:rotf:

Any ideas on what this gun should sell for?
I see the 20 ga DHE models selling from just under $4k to well over $5k and it seems a lot of the ones on the market are single trigger.

Some of the specs:
Double triggers, Beavertail forend, straight grip, 26" barrels Q1/Q2
As far as measurements, as far as I can tell the LOP is between 14 1/4 and 14 1/2 inches depending on where I hold the tape measure. There doesn't seem to be any cast off to the stock, but I can't be sure about that.
The wood on this gun is exceptional as commented on by Mr. Skeuse from this forum (posted pics on here when I first bought it) Link to that thread is here:

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6499&highlight=grade

I'm still on the fence about selling but wanted to throw out the "value" question to all the Parker experts on here to see what I might ask should I decide to sell.

[Paul Ehlers]

Judgeing by the pictures of the wood on your gun & the beavertail forearm. I would lean closer to the 5k range for value. When you throw in the double triggers it becomes a seldom encountered configuration.

If it were mine I would start by asking over 5k. You have a really nice repro there.

[Kenny Graft]

Keep it....you will be bummed after the cash is gone again! SELL ANYTHING BUT THE GOOD STUFF......(-: SXS ohio If you must sell it the 5K number is spot on. It would make a perfect skeet gun with very nice wood to show off on the line.

[Sam Ogle]

Double trigger guns with beavertail fore-ends and straight stocks have been the most desired of the reproductions as of late.
I too, believe $5,000 is about the asking price. Good luck ever replacing it.
Dang, Walt.......can't you sell a brother-in-law's car or something else?
If I shot this gun, it would be a very hard thing for me to sell!

[ron belanger]

Thanks all for the replies! While happy that my Reproduction's value is higher than expected :clap: I am very much on the fence about selling it. I know, too, that I'd probably, never be able to replace it.

Looks like it's back in the safe for now...Perhaps a quiet, holiday with fruitcakes sent out as gifts will the order of the season! :rotf:

[Sam Ogle]

An excellent decision!

[Rob Greenside]

Yup,......I would hang onto this and not sell. Very difficult to replace. May take a long time to find another as nice, especially with double triggers. KEEP IT !!!

[Dean Romig]

Good decision! I have a 28 ga. just like yours, also with Q1 & Q2 chokes and the wood is the same too.
I don't think I'll ever sell mine - it's just too 'me'. It is perfect for those "little russet fellers" in my avatar.

[Tony Guccioni]

Additionally, when Winchester / Kodensha stamped barrels with Q1 and Q2 ....

What are the actual choke dimensions / constrictions ?

P.S. Gorgeous gun Walt.

[Kenny Graft]

I have 3 gauges in Q1/Q2 .003/.006 is the norm with my tool. SXS ohio My 16 set is .004/.006

[ron belanger]

I have 3 gauges in Q1/Q2 .003/.006 is the norm with my tool. SXS ohio My 16 set is .004/.006

Excuse me for being so ignorant but regarding those choke dimensions, do they mean that the barrels are that much THICKER at the end where the restrictions are? If so, how far from the end of the barrels are the restrictions? Just curious to learn something I know nothing about...:)

[Dean Romig]

No Ron, the barrel walls at the muzzles will be that much thinner (less consriction) than tighter chokes (more constriction).

[Tony Guccioni]

I have 3 gauges in Q1/Q2 .003/.006 is the norm with my tool. SXS ohio My 16 set is .004/.006

Why I asked - I have a Winchester Model 23 Golden Quail 12 Gauge, stamped Quail 1 / Quail 2 AND IC / IM at the factory !

Doesn't make sense.

Will endeavor to have it miked out ...

Thanks all.

[Kenny Graft]

Double stamped, it can not be both! 20ga. bore is normally .615 , IC = .007 IM = .020 Most modern guns have about 2-3" of choke, older guns from 1930-s and earlier may have 4-5" of choke from the muzzle. So if the bore is 615 and the shot exits the muzzle at .622 that give you .007 of choke. The only way to get true measure of choke is with a inside bore reader. You must know the inside bore diameter ahead of the choke. That is why a caliper or wedge type tool is misleading. SXS ohio (-:

[John Mazza]

The choking is the difference in the inside diameter (I.D.) of the nominal bore and the inside diameter at the muzzle. So, the choke constriction is basically how much smaller (diametrically speaking) the muzzle I.D. is than the nominal bore I.D.

So, to have a smaller I.D., the barrel walls at the muzzle are thicker than the barrel walls a few inches down the barrels from the muzzle. (Dean was speaking "comparatively" about a tighter choked barrel, in that Q1, Q2 chokes will result in a thinner barrel wall at the muzzle, as compared to a tighter full choke...)

...just wanted to clarify.

John