Help With Value Please, 20 Gauge VH

[Bobby Cash]

I've been itching for a sub-gauge Parker, looking at alot of internet offerings, and saw this listing:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun_inventory/inventory/kansas_city/american_sg/946563_parkvh20_kc.jsp?hierarchyId=11657

I realize it's Cabela's, though I'm familiar with the manager of the gun library, B.C. Kinsey, and I trust him.
I'm told this gun is original, solid, and hasn't been abused. Bores are .617 and .619 with constriction of .0020 and .24, listed as IC/Mod in the ad but sems more like Imp Mod/Full. Dimensions seem fairly modern with a good LOP and I like the 28" barrels. No measurements on barrel wall thickness yet.

What is the usual Barrel wall thickness for a 20 gauge, something like .026?

What is the real value of a VH like this? I havn't seen too many for sale with longer barrels and 2 3/4 inch chambers.

I've got a 3 day F.R.R. and have made my best deal at a 10% discount off the asking price. How close am I to real world or stated differently, how close am I to stupid money?

Thank you in advance, as always i'm awed by your collective knowledge :bowdown:
Bobby

[Dean Romig]

Bobby, I think you done good!

That's a very nice 20 ga. VH I would definitely pay that price to have.

Dean

[Dave Suponski]

Very very nice VH. I would be alot more comfortable at $4500.00

[Dean Romig]

Dave, that's in nicer condition than my VHE 28 ga. :knowbetter:

[Bobby Cash]

Jim Thyne of Ivory Beads agrees with Dave, although my offers of $4500 and $4750 were both rejected.

The questions for me become,
1)How much is having it now worth?
2)How quickly will an equal condition gun surface at the lesser price?
3)What value can you place on a purchase from a trusted seller?

Thanks so much for your responses. I'm thinking I'll pull the trigger on this one. Bobby

[John Dunkle]

My reply - is pull the trigger now.. It's a nice, higher condition V grade... I also met that library manager once on a trip to the west, and my opinion is that he is a "straight shooter"...

As well, you might also see Parkers in higher condition going for less - and Parkers of lower condition going for more. But, if you buy at the price that fits your budget and needs - and the one you posted is a fair price for a great condition gun...

I can say this as I just unwrapped a D grade sub gauge that I bought almost two months ago - and a friend held for me until I returned back from my weeks in Haiti - which he shipped when I got back a few days ago... As I write this, I'm sitting here admiring it - and I'm not looking at comp values. Rather, I'm just thrilled...

I'm guessing you will be as well if you snap up the V grade you posted about...

Hope this helps!

john

[Larry Frey]

My first impression was great gun but about 20% overpriced. That being said if the gun fits your need and you can afford it , buy it because in a few years it will only cost you more. Remember the old saying, you never pay too much for a good Parker, you just pay it too soon.

[Bobby Cash]

First off, thank you for your timely replies, I appreciate your input.

Funny that you speak of the gun fitting my needs. I've recently sold my first and only Parker (1904 VH 30" XFull/XFull) because it really didn't fill the bill for a Continental Trap gun. Even though it was used only occasionally, it just wasn't quite right.

Since then, I decided that the only need I have regarding a Parker is that I need to own one. I shoot Supers and 21's and can meet all my shooting and hunting needs with those fine guns, however, I felt a sense of emptiness not owning a Parker to occasionally take out and shoot. Couple that with the fact that I have invested in The Parker Story and have barely scratched the surface of that voluminous endeavor, there just really is no choice, I've got to have another Parker.

I suppose I'm preaching to the choir, I believe you folks know what I mean. Thanks,
Bobby

[Bill Murphy]

That gun is a great choice for someone who "Just has to own a Parker".

[Tim Sheldon]

Bobby, get something off that bad boy and buy it. That is a nice looking gun gun. IMO, you will NEVER regret high quality Parkers.

Tim

[Tim Sheldon]

Bobby, you may want to see what the forearm looks like first. There are no pics and the screw on the iron shows a little ware. It could be OK, but I get nervous when there are no pics.
Tim

[E Robert Fabian]

John, how about some pics. of your new prize!

[John Dunkle]

John, how about some pics. of your new prize!Ummm - OK....

;)

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=109&pictureid=1107

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=109&pictureid=1099

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=109&pictureid=1100

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=109&pictureid=1101

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=109&pictureid=1102

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=109&pictureid=1103

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=109&pictureid=1104

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=109&pictureid=1105

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=109&pictureid=1106

[E Robert Fabian]

OK, sub gauge? should I start drooling..... fill in the details

[John Dunkle]

Ahh - OK...

DHE - 1917 mfg. Skeleton butt plate, twin ivories, 26" bbls, 20GA, 0 frame, PG, etc... Haven't shot it yet - but I will.. Was going to take it today to the trap range, but I'm running low on lower pressure 20 ammo - and didn't want to beat it up...

Best to you!

John

[Dave Suponski]

Stunning John,Congratulations! Are ya gonna let Scott borrow it?.....:duck:

[John Dunkle]

....Are ya gonna let Scott borrow it?.....:duck:I have Scott on the "10 foot rule" on this DHE/20... What's the 10 foot rule? "Scott, if you walk within 10 feet of this Parker - you owe me a "viewing fee""...

;)

JD

[E Robert Fabian]

Thanks John, I got five rounds of modern skeet in this morning and came home to find I had power back after three days.

Nice gun, can't wait to see it.

[John Dunkle]

CONGRATS on the power back on!!! Fortunately - we only lost power for a few seconds... As well - if I ever lose power for an extended time, you'll know - as this site will be off-line until power comes back.. ;)

Anyway - if I don't go back to Haiti again this week (I know - I'm just back..??) - are you shooting at Waldrons next weekend? If I'm not in Haiti - maybe we can get together there and I'll bring this and some of my other sub-gauge Parkers and shoot some skeet??

John

[E Robert Fabian]

Sounds good, if your interested they have a modern skeet field in Farmington and shoot Tues. nights, have a good set of lights, weather permitting.

[scott kittredge]

CONGRATS on the power back on!!! Fortunately - we only lost power for a few seconds... As well - if I ever lose power for an extended time, you'll know - as this site will be off-line until power comes back.. ;)

Anyway - if I don't go back to Haiti again this week (I know - I'm just back..??) - are you shooting at Waldrons next weekend? If I'm not in Haiti - maybe we can get together there and I'll bring this and some of my other sub-gauge Parkers and shoot some skeet??

John

John i'll be there sunday :bigbye: have to check out my oops,your new gun :rotf: see you around 9 ish my power just came on at 7:15 pm scott

[John Dunkle]

Congrats on your power coming on!!! As well, just to note, even though you were nice to me in your post - you still have the 10' rule in effect with the DHE. :)

Best to you!

John

[scott kittredge]

Congrats on your power coming on!!! As well, just to note, even though you were nice to me in your post - you still have the 10' rule in effect with the DHE. :)

Best to you!

John

you will turn your back :shock: that is all i need :duck: see you sunday as long as it is not raining. PS i'll bring my new to me BHE scott