Ithaca 5E SBT

[Bob Hayes]

Found this today in a pawn shop.He wants $2800 for the gun.Looks in good shape but stock is short with pach. pad attached.
Beautiful gun and very interesting.I think it was manufactured 1938.Bores are good and finish and engraving are good.Snipe is gold and pheasant is either worn or tarnished if silver.

[Chuck Bishop]

Great gun at a good price.

[charlie cleveland]

i agree this is a fair price for this gun...she s a nice one...charlie

[Bill Davis]

Use a pencil eraser on that tarnished pheasant and it should brighten right up!

[Phil Yearout]

I can't read the serial # in the photos; that's a good price if she's a Flues; GREAT price if she's a Knick. Kincks start at 400,000.

[Bob Hayes]

SN 402652

[Bob Hayes]

I guess that would be a knick

[Bill Murphy]

Fairly early gun. My 402,000 range 5E was made in 1930. Your gun shows up as 1938 on the Ithaca chart. Yup, pencil eraser or even kleenex rubbed on the inlay will remove the tarnish. Show us pictures of the wood and the actual length of pull and we'll give you a better idea of price. The screws need to be helped out a bit. Ithaca may still have some parts, like screws.

[Bob Hayes]

Don't have complete pictures.The wood is in good shape and nice grain.Very minor wear.Gun really doesn't look used much.
The lop is short with pad.

[Phil Yearout]

Buggered screws can be a concern 'cause they indicate something inside may be buggered as well. IMO the pad is not a concern if you want the gun to shoot; if you're thinking collectability it might be.

[Dean Romig]

Did Ithaca ever use both silver and gold inlays like this?

Gold does NOT tarnish. It is my opinion that the gold inlay is missing.

If so, reevaluate the asking price as replacing the gold inlay won't be cheap.

[Bob Hayes]

Thats what I was thinking.But I did read somewhere they used silver on guns but not sure if it was both on one gun.
Thanks

[Richard Flanders]

I agree. It's a gold inlay that has been scraped off for whatever reason.

[Dave Noreen]

To have all that case color worn off the receiver, that gun has been carried and shot a lot!! But, they were made to be shot a lot!! When one blows the picture up there is quite a bit of the Pheasant detail visible leading me to think it is just a very tarnished silver inlay.

[Bob Hayes]

The guns reciever almost looks like a merkel I have.I mean the finish didn't look like it hard case color at all any time.Might be just the engraving but it does have a different look to it.

[Dave Noreen]

FWIW, I posed the question where Walter Snyder might see it. Walter says the change from silver to gold inlays on the No. 5Es was 1929/30. He also stated he had never seen silver on one side and gold on the other. I thought I had, but I have no documentation so maybe I dreamed it. :banghead:

[Phil Yearout]

I think Dollar oughta buy the durn thing so's we can all find out :corn:!

[Bill Murphy]

When the OP cleans off the inlay area, we will know.

[Phil Yearout]

So, didja buy it, or at least rub on the inlay?

[Bob Hayes]

I did not but I did get side tracked for a short spell.I have to go back by the store next week and planned on stopping in again but I am not a overly excited about single barrel guns.I got my eye on a couple other guns as well as one in progress right now.So I think I might pass on it.Plus I wanted the clerk to sit on it awhile.

[Patrick Lien]

I think what you are seeing on the left side is bare metal where the gold used to be and not silver.

Patrick

[Bill Murphy]

There is nothing inside of a Knick that can be screwed up by a curious owner. Once you fix the screws, everything will be OK.

[James Palmer]

Guys,

A friend who owns a small shop called me yesterday with this gun. I believe its a 5E. it has 34 inch barrels. Unfortunatley the stock has been messed with. Serial number is 259487 and it has a 5 above that.

i have no interest in it but I believe I could help pull it away for a very reasonable price if someone is interested.

Let me know via pm or feel free to call 415-286-3504.

[Dave Noreen]

That is a first year (1915) Flues SBT. It should have this style bolting --

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Ithaca%20and%20Lefever/FluesSBTearlybolting.jpg

By the next year they had gone to the bolder McGraw style engraving and changed to the A.P. Curtis bolting.

[Brad Bachelder]

Just worked on one with a silver inlaid phesant.

Brad

[Bill Murphy]

Nice Flues trap gun. They are worth quite a bit less than the Knickerbocker model that has over 400,000 serial number. The pictured gun also suffers from a cut up stock, but should still make a nice shooter for a few hundred dollars.