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Mike Koneski
08-12-2014, 02:39 PM
OK, I was able to procure an Ithaca 12g 30" for the "right price" this weekend. When I looked up the serial # (234xxx), it came up as a Lefever Nitro Special from 1927. The gun has no Lefever markings but has the Ithaca Gun Co, Ithaca NY on the receiver. Did Ithaca make the Lefever Nitro Special with Ithaca Gun Co markings? :confused:

Rick Losey
08-12-2014, 03:10 PM
The number also lists as a Flues

Pictures would help

Bill Murphy
08-12-2014, 06:39 PM
It is either one or the other. The Nitro Special is clearly marked. You probably have a Flues.

Mike Koneski
08-12-2014, 10:13 PM
Only other markings are the barrels stamped with "Smokeless Powder Steel Barrels". I had Flues in the past and don't recall that stamped on the barrels.

Eldon Goddard
08-12-2014, 10:31 PM
Later flues were marked with the smokeless powder steel. I have a late 12 marked as such.

Brian Dudley
08-12-2014, 11:11 PM
The flues would have a dog on the sides on the frame.

A nitro special has a goose on it and is marked so on the barrels.

Dave Noreen
08-12-2014, 11:37 PM
The Field Grade Flues was made with Smokeless Powder Steel barrels from beginning to end. 1912-13 Ithaca Gun Co. catalogue --

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Ithaca%20and%20Lefever/IthacaFluesField1912-13.jpg

1925 Ithaca Gun Co. catalogue --

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Ithaca%20and%20Lefever/1925FluesFieldGrade_zps1525e210.jpeg

Actually the earlier Field Grade Lewis and Minier Model Ithacas also had Smokeless Powder Steel barrels, as did the Field Grade NID's from their late 1925 intoduction to at least 1935.

Eldon Goddard
08-13-2014, 09:30 AM
I figured Mr. Noreen would know the answer. I do not have an early flues without composite barrels.