Single Miller trigger

[Kramer Klabau]

I have a Parker VH in good condition, 1927. It has a Miller trigger (aftermarket) installed. Can anyone tell me what discount I should apply when trying to value the gun due to the aftermarket trigger?

[Mark Ouellette]

Since its a Miller there should be no discount and maybe a premium!

Miller single triggers work.

[Mills Morrison]

Definitely a premium if for no other reason that Miller Single Trigger Parkers are less plentiful than others

[Kramer Klabau]

Thank you, gentleman. Is there a person in the San Francisco Bay Area who could give me a honest value of this gun?

[John Farrell]

A consideration you should keep in mind is that Miller SST are usually installed on guns used by hunters, rather than collectors. FYI a Miller SST now costs about $1400 installed. One of the top reasons—in my opinion—you don't see a lot of them being installed anymore.

What are the particulars about the gun, i.e. grade, gauge, barrel length, furniture etc.?

[Mills Morrison]

My wife wanted a single trigger sxs and we had to pay a premium for it. There just aren't many out there. It is a good reason to get used to double triggers and not look back

[Kramer Klabau]

John, the gun is VH grade with 30" barrels, manufactured in 1927. I am not familiar with your term "furniture," perhaps you could explain so I could define it better.
Thank you,
Kramer

[John Farrell]

Thanks for your response. Furniture, in my parlance are the things shown below. Sometimes I forget I'm not chatting with someone that knows me.

What kind of butt plate and pistol grip cap does it have? The original butt plate was black hard rubber with Parker Bros. surrounding a dog head with perhaps a bird in the mouth? The pg cap is also usually black hard rubber with Parker Bros. Meriden, Conn. Is the forearm a fat wide or narrow thin piece of wood. What is inscribed on the rib of the gun. I'd like to know the serial number, too, which I can use to completely identify the manufactured history of the gun in the Parker Bros. Identification and Serialization book as to how it came out of the factory.

[Kramer Klabau]

Hi, John, thanks for the explaination. The butt plate and the pistol grip are exactly as you described - dog head with bird (duck?) in mouth and Parker Bros. Meriden, Conn. The forearm is thin. The rib says, "Parker Bros. Makers, Meriden, CT U.S.A. Vulcan Steel. Serial number is 224741, 30 inch barrels (without a good gauge measurement device I just took a dime and one barrel is wider than the other so I assume Full and Modified??), Frame 1 1/2, Barrel weight 4, The Miller trigger is selective.
Hope this helps - quite like ancestory history
Kramer

[Dean Romig]

A properly functioning Miller SST is a premium and would add to the value of the gun regardless of the gun's condition otherwise.

[Bob Hayes]

How do you determine its a miller trigger or other brand?

[Dean Romig]

A Miller trigger will normally have the word MILLER stamped into the side of the trigger. Sometimes it is almost or even completely obscured by the trigger plate and you may only be able to see the edge of the first or last letter.

[John Farrell]

I have had lots of guns with Miller triggers, two here have the Miller name stamped on the right side of the triggers installed in the 70s and 80s. A more recent (2002) Miller installed at the Turnbull shop has the Miller stamped on the left side with the Turnbull insignia underneath it.

Since the Miller company has changed hands a couple of times in the past 12 years the price of the trigger is up there almost out of reach of the average shooter, I think.

[Bill Murphy]

Where is your selector located? The earlier Miller selector is in the safety button. The later Miller selector is a rocker in front of the trigger.

[John Farrell]

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[Dean Romig]

Weren't there three Miller designs?

[John Farrell]

Howard Miller would ask me every time I sent a gun to him if I wanted the newest design or the same old one. I have at least two of the designs here, the safety barrel selector and the trigger guard selector. Miller had an option of an automatic safety on or not. He also offered to place the trigger where the front trigger used to be or at the rear trigger placement. I don't recall having an option of the trigger guard placement. It just happened and it was right after Howard sold the company to Turnbull. If I had the option, I would have opted for the safety design. The trigger guard selector can be moved when the shooter is wearing gloves without the shooter knowing the barrels have been switched.

[Bill Murphy]

The rocker style selector was in production for many years when Howard sold the company to Doug Turnbull. The trigger mounted trigger patent was 1962.