Fox/Parker Challenge

[Dave Suponski]

Please see the Northeast SxS thread for the official rules for this great event coming up!

[Steve Cambria]

....and the $64,000 question remains: Who will be sipping the MOET in '14??

Will it be 3 and 0 for Team Fox or will Team Parker emerge (from the mortuary) and finally introduce the FPC Cup to the city of Meriden?

The stage is set, gentlemen. Ansley's Finest await you at The Hollow.:bigbye:


"A TRADITION LIKE NO OTHER"

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[Mills Morrison]

Not sure who will win, but am sure I wish we could be there. We hope to make Hausman's our spring event next year. I am a proud member of both groups, so can remain happily neutral and excited no matter who wins

[Dean Romig]

Can I shoot any Parker I want to shoot and does it need to be configured exactly as it left Meriden in '81 ?

[Dave Suponski]

Really Dean ?

[Rick Losey]

do you have a Parker based race gun???

[Dean Romig]

1881 that is. The only alteration is the length of the barrels and a cute little engraving on the trigger guard bow.

[Rich Anderson]

Dean you bring up a good point. IMHO these events such as the Challenge at Deep river and the Parker vs Fox challenge these guns should be as they left the factory with no modifications. In the spirit of using vintage firearms they should be vintage and not consist of just a receiver with new barrels and a custom stock complete with recoil reducers etc. We don't allow parker Reproductions in the Parker/Smith challenge BUT there are lots of modified guns out there.

Just my 2 cents as I'm not a good enough shot to be in the top 5 anyway but vintage guns should be vintage guns not guns with modifications.

[Frank Srebro]

Rich this is just my opinion as well but I think it's easy to get too hung up on the definition of 100% factory condition with no mods. Are we going to check the order books or record cards to see if a gun was opened from F & F to IC & Mod? Or if a HRBP was replaced with a recoil pad? And if that's OK let's say Parker A has a nice old Hawkins pad and Fox B has a Pachmayr that's a quite a bit newer? How about a 12 gauge gun with chambers lengthened from 2-5/8 to 2-3/4"? Is that OK? Or how about a stock comb that was cut down or spliced up?

I am certainly against allowing guns with ported barrels or recoil reducing stock gizzmos, but if the Parker or Fox is as specified in Dave's writeup and has a vintage look, that's OK with me. Again this is JMO.

[John Dunkle]

I've been watching this thread all day - to decide when to make it a "sticky" - but...

It appears to have taken on a "life of its own"...

;)

Carry on...

John D.

[Rich Anderson]

Frank I should have been more clear as to "my" definition of a modified gun. What I'm against as a vintage gun are the things like recoil reducers, Morgan adjustable pads, non factory barrels, screw in chokes, adjustable combs etc. I wouldn't consider Gunner's Gun a factory Parker but it's closer to original than some of the guns I've seen being used.

[Frank Srebro]

Agreed. Rich, thanks for the clarification.

[Tom Wyraz]

Really???? Just have fun..... just old fashioned fun.... who cares??
tjw

[Dean Romig]

Nope, not in the Parker/Fox Challenge.... we're shooting for "Braggin' Rights" and the coveted trophy :clap:

[Tom Wyraz]

:corn: :shock: Should be a good one!!!

[Daryl Corona]

Frank I should have been more clear as to "my" definition of a modified gun. What I'm against as a vintage gun are the things like recoil reducers, Morgan adjustable pads, non factory barrels, screw in chokes, adjustable combs etc. I wouldn't consider Gunner's Gun a factory Parker but it's closer to original than some of the guns I've seen being used.

My sentiments exactly Rich. Turning a shootable vintage shotgun into a "trick" shotgun just goes against the spirit of a "vintage" event. Shoot them in a NSCA event if you must, no one will even notice. But a Morgan adjustable pad on a classic gun? That's just wrong.

[Larry Stauch]

"What I'm against as a vintage gun are"

All depends on what one wants out of life; do you want to collect and enjoy shooting the guns you collect or do you want to compete and win at any cost.

Choosing other venues for our desired outcomes may be the answer as opposed to changing the venue to fit our outcome.

The decision is each of ours.:bigbye: