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[charlie cleveland]

i m trying to trade for a n grade 10 ga hammerless s parker..my question is the barrels on this gun are stamped 7 lb 10 oz..now the barrels are marked as a 3 frame..seems like this is mighty heavy barrels for a 3 frame gun..sorry i forgot the serial no as of now...the barrels are only 30 inch and the end of the barrels appear in the pictures to be very thick and are listed as full and full chokes..this probably was a heavy duty duck gun in her time..she probly weighs in at about 12 lbs maybe a little more..i m just guessing the weight if the barrel are 7 lb and 10 oz s then the stock and action should weigh about 5 lb s.. anybody else got a set of this heavy barrels on a 3 frame or a gun on a 3 frame that weighs in at around 12 lb s...will be a coupla weeks before i know if i get the gun.. would like to know what you fellas think... charlie

[Bill Zachow]

Charlie, those barrels are heavy enough for an 8 gauge Parker. My hammer 8, with 34" barrels are only stamped 7 pounds, 6 ounces. Are you sure it's a10, and not an 8? Maybe the 3 stamp is a poorly stamped 6, or even the never seen 8. When you get the gun, post pictures. This has got to be one heavy gun. Bill

[charlie cleveland]

bill i only know that the gun owner says its a 10 ga andfor sure the barrels are stamped 7 lbs 10 oz..its sure looks like it is stamped a 3 frame gun..its a fish tail hammerless gun sure wish i remembered the serial no..it will be a coupla weeks before i know if i get the gun it would be nice if it turned out to be a 8 ga...but it sure is interesting as a10 ga.. it has twist barrels marked on it..thomas has a big heavy 10 ga maybe he will pitch in and tell us it weight and frame size if i remember rite his barrels weigh over 9 lbs...charlie

[Phillip Carr]

Charlie I am in Mexico right now so I do not have access to my 3 frame 10 gauge GHE hammerless. I believe my barrels are about 6 1/2 lbs. and they are 36". Sounds like this could be a really cool old gun.

[Eldon Goddard]

I do not see how 3 frame barrels would weigh 7 lbs even if they are straight tubes without striking the barrels. Very interesting Charlie cant wait to see what come of this.

[Mills Morrison]

Good luck on getting that gun. Sounds like a good one

[Frank Cronin]

Hi Charlie, my post is similar to what Bill said about his 8 ga. For comparison, my five frame 10 gauge hammer gun with 34" tubes is stamped 7 lbs 1 oz. It weighs 12.5 lbs.

You have to get pictures of this gun and post. A 3 frame? It sounds like it is a monster.

[edgarspencer]

Won't that be something if the gun turns out to be an 8 bore.

[Bill Murphy]

Charlie a serial number and some more specific information on the markings would help. I know you will need more information before you write a check.

[charlie cleveland]

it will be at least 2 weeks before i know for sure if i get this gun..by the pictures it will just be a shooter ..but a good one..i m really excited about this old gun its got to have a hidden storey behind it i hope when i get the serial no of this gun that the records will show something..i will post as i get info of it and i m pretty sure i will get the gun..i m giveing up a 410 winchester model 42 in trade for this gun..i like the 410 but i like the big parker better... charlie

[Jerry Harlow]

Charlie,

One 10 GA NH 30" #3 frame I have is stamped 5/4. Barells are .050 thick minimum. Gun weighs 9 pounds. I do not see how that gun could be a 3 frame 10 gauge and weigh that much or have barrels that weighed that much in 10 gauge. Something is not right with the frame size, barrel weight, or gauge in my humble opinion.

[charlie cleveland]

well the gun is now on its way to mississippi i should have it by this coming thursday..jerry in the picture of the gun barrel on the flats its plainly marked 7 lb 10 oz and the frame size was clearly marked as a 3 frame but there may be something to what you say.. one thing for sure its gona be a heavy old gal for sure..maybe we can figure this old gal out i hope so...charlie

[wayne goerres]

Glad to here that you got your gun Charlie. Sounds as though you may need a gun bearer.

[Frank Cronin]

Nice Charlie! Be sure to post pictures and get a research letter on the gun.

[Mills Morrison]

An NH 10 is a great Parker for those of us who shoot our Parkers

[charlie cleveland]

i plan on shooting this one for sure..i don t know who s gona carry this thing for me but they need to be in good shape for sure..and i will post pictures and get a letter if possible...charlie

[Pete Lester]

I feel like I am waiting to hear about a baby being born. Are the stampings reported correct, is it an 8 gauge, is the frame bigger than 3, questions and more questions. I would be very anxious if I were you. Did you get this gun yet? We need a follow up!

[Bill Murphy]

Some Parkers are made very heavy for the gauge and frame size. This may be one of them. My #6 frame ten weighs more than 13 pounds, way heavier than it had to be. I mostly shoot it with 7/8 ounce 12 gauge shells. It doesn't kick much. My nine pound VH 16 isn't much of a kicker either.

[Dean Romig]

I've seen a stamped 5 mistaken for a 3 when the stamp wasn't deep. Charlie, is the gauge stamped on the lug along with the frame size??

[Mills Morrison]

My money says Charlie has a new 8 gauge

[David Noble]

Mills, I hope you're right. What a pleasant surprise that would be!
It could'nt happen to a nicer guy.

[Bill Murphy]

David, without the marks, it could be a DHE 28 gauge. We'll wait until we have the real marks. My guess is that it is a #$^&%@*. Sorry, my computer is running low on power.

[Eldon Goddard]

Either way it is turning out as a cool gun either a heavy 10 gauge or an 8 gauge.

[charlie cleveland]

checked on the big gun at the gunshop but ups had not run at 4.15 pm so hopefully it comes tommorrow... charlie

[Jeff Bonadurer]

Good luck Charlie ! I've got my fingers crossed for you.

You will have to do a side by side photo of the new gun and the little
20 gauge you bought from me.

Kind regard,

Jeff

[charlie cleveland]

jeff i will take pictures of the little 20 and the big ten and post them for sure..charlie

[charlie cleveland]

well i picked the gun up this evening..it is a 10 ga with 30 inch barrels it is hammerless and has a fishtail opening lever..the grade is n the serial no is69388 the frame is a 3 definaly the barrels are marked 7 lbs 10 ounce..i weighed the gun it weighs 11 lbs 8 ounces.. well the gun shoots but comes unbreached when fired..it is off faceabout 6 thousands i put a piece of paper in the roll pin it tightened it up..i lubed up the part that catches the barrelsand locks gun up now the gun will not fasten shut at all..the trigger guard screw that goes up to the tang is stripped..the gun is gona need some help for sure..and the bottom floor plate has been peened on with a hammer...other than that shes all there i bet the ole gal has killed her share of ducks... any body got any idea s on on makeing the barrel catch work again..also the left barrel is real hair trigger and will fire even with safety on..but the right barrel functions ok...even with all these issues i m pround i found this old gun...well she aint a 8 but she is a pretty heavy ten ..i bet the end of the barrels are 80 thosents thick...barrells have the little mark at the end of barrels so do not appear to have ever been cut..will take pictures soon i sure wanted to take this jewel turkey hunting this saturday but shes gona need a lot of work before she gets to go...charlie

[David Noble]

Charlie, I'm disappointed to hear of the short comings of this gun, but it is all fixable.
I'm glad you're happy, and if you were able to make your old 8 ga shootable, then this one should be a piece of cake!
Post pictures! David

[Thomas L. Benson Sr.]

Charlie: I didn't see your post till now so sorry I didn't answer earlier. I do have a 9.7 pound barrel on my 34 inch 10 ga. It sounds like you got another Turkey killer. Thomas

[Eldon Goddard]

Sounds like a great project Charlie. I like project guns a lot myself but I think I already have enough for the next 20 years.

[Mills Morrison]

Congratulations! Hope it doesn't take too much to get her fixed up

[Pete Lester]

well i picked the gun up this evening..it is a 10 ga with 30 inch barrels it is hammerless and has a fishtail opening lever..the grade is n the serial no is69388 the frame is a 3 definaly the barrels are marked 7 lbs 10 ounce..i weighed the gun it weighs 11 lbs 8 ounces.. well the gun shoots but comes unbreached when fired..it is off faceabout 6 thousands i put a piece of paper in the roll pin it tightened it up..i lubed up the part that catches the barrelsand locks gun up now the gun will not fasten shut at all..the trigger guard screw that goes up to the tang is stripped..the gun is gona need some help for sure..and the bottom floor plate has been peened on with a hammer...other than that shes all there i bet the ole gal has killed her share of ducks... any body got any idea s on on makeing the barrel catch work again..also the left barrel is real hair trigger and will fire even with safety on..but the right barrel functions ok...even with all these issues i m pround i found this old gun...well she aint a 8 but she is a pretty heavy ten ..i bet the end of the barrels are 80 thosents thick...barrells have the little mark at the end of barrels so do not appear to have ever been cut..will take pictures soon i sure wanted to take this jewel turkey hunting this saturday but shes gona need a lot of work before she gets to go...charlie

That sounds like a beast of 30" barrel 10ga, sure won't kick much. That must be close to a record weight for 3 frame 30" barrel stampings. The gun has some issues from the sounds of it but nothing that can't be fixed, it is 123 years old so some issues are to be expected. I'll bet some of the mechanical issues are due to crud in the action. When you get it fixed do you have someone to carry it for you?

[Mills Morrison]

My NH has a fishtail toplever too. NH's are great working Parkers

[charlie cleveland]

i took the old n grade apart this evening..heres what i found so far a bad oil soaked stock 2 screws missing in the latching very small..this are the screw that hold the linkage that the top lever open s and shuts the barrel with...lots of crud in the action for sure...also one very small piece came out i ve never seen before.may need help on this piece if it actually go to a parker...the hair trigger is still in question i have not seen anything yet that should cause it to be so touchy...well i ve got 2 find some screws i m just gona take my time and fix this ole gal rite... hey pete your probably rite about these being the heaviest barrels on a three frame gun...and just 30 inches of barrel...but thomas still got me beat by a whole lot about 2 lbs worth...now who s got a extra pair oif them screws to sell...charlie

[Chris Travinski]

The safety probably doesn't work because of the stripped screw. The distance between the upper and lower tangs is critical and if that screw doesn't tighten up, the safety block won't come down far enough.

[ED J, MORGAN]

Charlie, I have lots of Parker screws. Are you going to the Southern Shoot this month? I will bring my box of screws. Ed

[charlie cleveland]

can not make it to the southern but i sure wish i could. i would really enjoy meeting ever body..thanks for the offer on the screws..brian is fixing me up with the screws..i don t no why but this old gun really intrigues me.. the barrel weight for a 3 frame still puzzles me i have a ph 10 ga 3 frame with 32 inch barrels and it only weighs 6-6...the n grade are 30 inches and not cut and go 7-10.. ...charlie

[wayne goerres]

Apparently someone at Parker didn't feel like draw filing barrels on the day your gun was made.

[charlie cleveland]

your probably right about that the gun musta been made about friday evening about quiting time..charlie

[wayne goerres]

Hey Charley. Why don't you try weighing your barrels and see if it matches the stamped weight on the barrels. I am just curious.