1876 lifter

[Carvel Whaley]

Can anyone tell me what frame size, gauge, and barrel length lifter #7136 left the factory as?
Thanks
Carvel

[Dean Romig]

7136 is a 30" ten gauge. It was most likely built on either the 2 frame or the 3 frame.

Measuring the distance between firing pin centers in sixteenths of an inch will tell you the frame size.

The 2-frame measurement is 1 2/16" and the three frame measurement is 1 3/16"

[Brian Dudley]

Was the frame size system fully standardized at this early point in production?

I have two early lifters that have some variation from the standard frame size system. Both are 12g guns. Both measure a little over 1-1/8" at firing pin spacing, bolt they both vary by about 1/16" in overall width over bolsters.

[Carvel Whaley]

I hope to meet and talk to you guys at the Southern, I am new at this and have a lot to learn.
Thanks
Carvel

[Larry Frey]

Carvel,
The PGCA will be sharing a large tent out back by the two Five Stands. Please stop by and bring your Parker, we look forward to meeting you.

[Carvel Whaley]

I plan on shooting in several of the events if possible. I will bring 1 20ga, 2 12's, and 3 10's which is my current collection. Thanks for all you guys help.
Carvel

[Richard B. Hoover]

Carvel,

Are they all lifters? I will have my bore and chamber gauges and want to get more data on the bore and chamber configurations of early Parker's for an Article I am writing. I look forward to meeting you at the SXS.

Richard B, Hoover

[Larry Frey]

Richard,
I will have a couple of lifters (3251 & 18127) that you are more than welcome to measure if you want.

[Carvel Whaley]

Only 2 are lifters.

[Richard B. Hoover]

Richard,
I will have a couple of lifters (3251 & 18127) that you are more than welcome to measure if you want.

Larry,

Thanks. That would be wonderful. Are these both 12-gauge Parkers? I am hoping to measure several guns there. Maybe there will also be several of the 11-gauge Parkers there as well.

Do you have any idea if there will be anyone at the SXS with very early 1865-1875) Eley or Parker Paper or Parker, UMC, Maynard or Draper Brass Shotshells (either for Sale or Show)?

I look forward to seeing you and all my friends in Sanford.

Yours,


Richard B. Hoover

[Larry Frey]

Richard,
Yes both are 12's and I'm sure there will be many more there you can measure.

[Grantham Forester]

7136 is a 30" ten gauge. It was most likely built on either the 2 frame or the 3 frame.

Measuring the distance between firing pin centers in sixteenths of an inch will tell you the frame size.

The 2-frame measurement is 1 2/16" and the three frame measurement is 1 3/16" Mr. Romig- I have a 11 gauge (I believe it to be) Parker Lifter SN 1346 and all the numbers match every where so marked on the gun as I have dis-assembled it-- The frame is marked on the left barrel flat (water table) as follows- lower cased capital B followed by the 4 digit serial number is slightly larger case numbers- could this the next size up from the No. 3 at 1 &3/16" between centers- as mine measures an even 1 & 1/4" on the same- also, did the frame sizes on these earlier Parkers move an even 1/16" as you progressed from on size upwards to the next-- = The Barrels are marked in flowing script on the top rib, closer to the breech- Parker Bros. Makers, Meriden, Connecticut U. S. A.-- on the bottom of the left side barrel near the breech and lug- on the underside-- 11 over a capital letter D-- opposite to that, on the right barrel underside- is a shield with the smaller case letters looks like p and d- somewhat blurred- and below that in larger case and F--thanks GF

[Richard B. Hoover]

Richard,
I will have a couple of lifters (3251 & 18127) that you are more than welcome to measure if you want.

Larry,

That is great. I would love to measure them.

Richard

[Richard B. Hoover]

Mr. Romig- I have a 11 gauge (I believe it to be) Parker Lifter SN 1346 and all the numbers match every where so marked on the gun as I have dis-assembled it-- The frame is marked on the left barrel flat (water table) as follows- lower cased capital B followed by the 4 digit serial number is slightly larger case numbers- could this the next size up from the No. 3 at 1 &3/16" between centers- as mine measures an even 1 & 1/4" on the same- also, did the frame sizes on these earlier Parkers move an even 1/16" as you progressed from on size upwards to the next-- = The Barrels are marked in flowing script on the top rib, closer to the breech- Parker Bros. Makers, Meriden, Connecticut U. S. A.-- on the bottom of the left side barrel near the breech and lug- on the underside-- 11 over a capital letter D-- opposite to that, on the right barrel underside- is a shield with the smaller case letters looks like p and d- somewhat blurred- and below that in larger case and F--thanks GF

Grantham,

What.size are the chambers, and what weight is your Parker.
Will you have B1346 at the Southern? I would love to see it.

Richard

[David Hamilton]

Mr. Hoover, i have an average Parker from 1875, 10ga, #2 frame, 28" barrels, lifter, that is not very unusual except for the checkering of the stock. I believe that it has 2 5/8" chambers that are tapered in the usual Parker fashion. If you are interested I will bring the gun to the Southern. David

[Richard B. Hoover]

Mr. Hoover, i have an average Parker from 1875, 10ga, #2 frame, 28" barrels, lifter, that is not very unusual except for the checkering of the stock. I believe that it has 2 5/8" chambers that are tapered in the usual Parker fashion. If you are interested I will bring the gun to the Southern. David

I am interested in all hammer guns. Only by getting hard data by measuring lots of bores and chambers can a lot of these mysteries and myths be resolved.:banghead:

As my old boss at the Marshall Space Flight Center, Director Wehrner Von Braun used to say:

"One test measurement is worth a hundred expert opinions."

Thanks for offering. I would love to have the chance to measure your lifter.

Richard