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David Cooper
01-18-2014, 09:45 PM
Hi all, I have a gun that I am having a little trouble with ID. Serial Number 87746, Grade mark "P", which I interpret as Grade 1, it is hammerless and also has ejectors. No marks on barrel whatsoever but it is a 12 ga. Any help appreciated. Can send more pics if it would help. Thanks!
David Holes
01-18-2014, 11:07 PM
Welcome aboard, You do have a PH, has extractors instead of ejectors, and looks like someone did a little extra engraving around the barrels. Looks like a great gun. Dave
John Dunkle
01-19-2014, 08:58 AM
Hi David..!
First - welcome aboard to the forum!
As well, let me move this into the main forum area where it will probably get a few more "eyes" on your post and pictures...
My best to you!
John
Brian Dudley
01-19-2014, 09:31 AM
The barrels look to most likely be an aftermarket set. There are no markings on them at all?
They could be a set of Vickers barrels, but they were usually marked as so on the top rib or the bottoms of the tubes in front of the chambers.
Your gun would have originally been fitted with Twist Steel barrels.
So, the aftermarket set could have been fitted to the gun back in the days when all composite barrels were "unsafe" to shoot.
What is the clover in the stock? is it on the surface or is it an inlay? If inlaid, it most likely is covering up a bolt or screw through the head of the stock.
Angel Cruz
01-19-2014, 10:11 AM
Looks like an Irish clover.
Bill Murphy
01-19-2014, 10:21 AM
You might include a picture of the breech of the barrels to clear up the "extractors or ejectors" question. If the gun truly has automatic ejectors, they are retrofit. Nice looking gun, with interesting inlays.
David Cooper
01-19-2014, 10:56 AM
I do believe they are "extractors" rather than ejectors but will post a pic later. I did check again and there are no markings of any kind on the barrel. As for the nice clovers, apparently someone painted them on the stock. Can't imagine why they felt it would be a good idea.
Brian Dudley
01-19-2014, 10:58 AM
As for the nice clovers, apparently someone painted them on the stock. Can't imagine why they felt it would be a good idea.
At least that makes them somewhat easy to get rid of.
David Cooper
01-19-2014, 11:07 AM
I do believe they are "extractors" rather than ejectors but will post a pic later. I did check again and there are no markings of any kind on the barrel. As for the nice clovers, apparently someone painted them on the stock. Can't imagine why they felt it would be a good idea.
charlie cleveland
01-19-2014, 01:41 PM
those are some nice barrels who ever made them...the gun is nice and will break clays or birds as you wish and the best part it is a parker...charlie
Jay Gardner
01-19-2014, 01:50 PM
Appears the shamrock was painted on the stock, that's easy to deal with.
Linn Matthews
01-19-2014, 01:58 PM
Older Parkers can crack or actually split at the tang--mostly from shooting higher pressure loads. The fix for the crack in usually a bolt through the stock at or near the spot where your shamrock is located
charlie cleveland
01-19-2014, 03:59 PM
love the art be it cover up or not..gives the gun some character...charlie
Brian Dudley
01-19-2014, 05:18 PM
The barrels look like ejector type. I think I see a screw I the dolls head and split kickers. But it's hard to tell.
Being aftermarket barrels, the dolls head could be screwed on.
David Cooper
01-19-2014, 05:40 PM
Thanks, all, for your comments! I appreciate everyone's help.
Bill Murphy
01-19-2014, 07:19 PM
Is the extractor one piece or two pieces? Two pieces are ejectors, one piece is an extractor. Dry fire the gun with empties in it. If the shells are thrown out by a spring mechanism that clicks, they are ejectors. If the shells are just raised up for you to pick out, it is an extractor. Since the picture of the breech didn't do the trick, show us a picture of the inside of the forend. That will clear everything up.
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