View Full Version : VHE- sounds like something is loose in action - normal?
Jeff Davis
01-08-2014, 07:44 PM
So I have a new to me VHE. Gun is in really good what looks like original shape. Everything functions as it should, ejectors eject, gun fires, safety resets and works properly. Locks up tight with no looseness, lever is to the right of center. Hoewever- if I hold the gun and dip and raise the butt I hear what sounds like a small piece of metal sliding back and forth in the action. It does this if the gun is cocked, not cocked, or broken open. Its not as of there is a loose piece just rattling around in there- it something obviously in a fixed position sliding back and forth. Is this a problem? If it is what could it be? I have not tackled pulling the stock off and cleaning and lubing the action. I guess I should.
Rick Losey
01-08-2014, 08:18 PM
not normal, get it apart or to someone who knows how
Richard Flanders
01-08-2014, 08:33 PM
I agree. Get it looked at.
greg conomos
01-08-2014, 08:50 PM
I've had that noise before in a gun that was restocked. I sent it back and it came back noiseless but the restocker was wishy-washy as to what it was, so I don't know.
Brian Dudley
01-08-2014, 09:27 PM
I cannot think of what it could be. The only thing that free floats is the auto safety reset rod. But it wouldn't move enough to make any noise like you describe.
chris dawe
01-08-2014, 09:33 PM
Try removing the barrels ,tip those back and forth ...I've heard loose solder rolling back and forth between the ribs make that noise.
Brian Dudley
01-08-2014, 09:37 PM
Yeah Chris, I have also heard that in barrels as well.
Jeff Davis
01-08-2014, 09:46 PM
So- if the barrels are off it still makes the noise so its not the barrels. However- if when the barrels are off I slide the safety forward - it no longer makes the noise. So - I'm guessing it has something to do with the safety, which does function as it should.
Jerry Harlow
01-08-2014, 10:00 PM
I'll bet someone lost/was missing the auto safety return rod and put an undersized piece of rod in there. That should not hurt anything if that is what it is.
Brian Dudley
01-08-2014, 10:24 PM
Yup. Auto safety rod is what it is. Or at least most likely based on your recent findings.
As jerry suggests, it may have been replaced with something that is not the right size.
Or it could just have a little more play than normal. Usually those rods are a little snug fitting in the hole. But that can so be made tight by dirt and such over the years.
Jeff Davis
01-08-2014, 10:41 PM
So on the technical drawing- what part is the auto safety rod? Yes I do need to disassemble and clean anyhow, so I'll have to look at it. The back end of the trigger guard (where the serial number is)stands ever so slightly proud of the wood as well- I'm wondering if I can fix that.
greg conomos
01-08-2014, 10:41 PM
Yes, I should have mentioned it was safety-related in mine as well. But I never received a good answer as to what it was more specifically.
Brian Dudley
01-09-2014, 08:48 AM
The reset rod is number 26 on the technical drawing. To remove it, you will have to (once the action is out of the stock), unscrew the upper tang screw bushing (Number 32) from the stock. A driver bit that is the right thickness and the exact width of the bushing will be needed for this. Not that Parker did put a stamp mark in the busing and the wood in order to allow proper locating of the bushing. This is important because the bushing acts as a spacer between upper and lower tangs. And the holds in the bushing can sometimes be off center allowing for adjustment for locating the upper tang screw. After the bushing is out, then the rod will pull out the front of the head. The screw bushing is what retains the rod in place.
It COULD be that the bushing was removed by someone in the past and that is causing the excessing movement of the rod back and forth.
Jeff Davis
01-09-2014, 10:12 AM
SO- if that bushing is gone is it fairly easy to replace if I can find another one?
Looking at the FAQs disassembly seems pretty easy. I have a good set of gunsmiths screwdrivers, and the screws on the bottom aren't pristine anyway, so I think I'll take it apart this weekend and give it a good cleaning and looking over. Anything else I should look at closely while in there? Are there areas on the stock that are prone to cracking I should inspect?
Harold Lee Pickens
01-09-2014, 08:54 PM
my VH 16 makes the same noise as you tip it up and down
Brian Dudley
01-09-2014, 08:57 PM
If the bushing is missing, contact me. I have several.
If you run into any other issues, or have any questions, let me know.
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